Opel WRC 2020 possible ! :)
https://www.motorsport-news.co.uk/ne...ramme-in-2020/
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Opel WRC 2020 possible ! :)
https://www.motorsport-news.co.uk/ne...ramme-in-2020/
It would be great! Also it's strange that Opel didn't bless R5 project, it could be useful for developing WRC, or they use one of current PSA R5's/WRC...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
The article states the company can start building a world rally car once they're back to profit, and the estimate is that they're back to profit in 2020. Unless they can secretly build the car before that, it will take longer for them to be competing. But good news anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
If the New Corsa chassis can cure the malignments of the C3, then they can surely be a contender.
Canada wants to join the WRC come 2023, the layout of the plan ahead is in the link:
http://rallypromoter.ca/about/
If this will be true, it's more likely be Opel change for Citroen, not Peugeot. They are focus more on World RX now and with electric from 2020 they will sure be rather there.
Still it's long time to 2020 and everything could change until then. Let's wait and we will see.
(fingers crossed for Skoda and Opel both join and no team quitting)
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Originally Posted by ESTR
That is an interesting question, because Carlos Tavares hinted at the possibility of having Opel as a sort of "guinea pig" for electric technology, since he isn't totally convinced full electric cars are a good proposition. Even reading between the lines he was clearly hinting that we would have Opel take all the risks with e-mobility and see how the market would react, while Peugeot and Citroen stay in relatively safe territory with small electric and petrol hybrid cars.
So I guess much sooner we'll see Opel in WRX and maybe Peugeot can commit to WRC.
Unfortunatly it looks like night stages will not be included in 2018 route, especially considering they represent the sport at its best. It's just disappointing when the day comes to an end at 5 pm. Last year GB night stages were the cherry on the pie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Totally agree. I like both the surfaces, but at this rate we are going to end up with the world rally gravel championship. The balance between tarmac and gravel should be more even, as long as the nature of the country allows it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
I'd prefer to see Peugeot replace Citroen in the WRC; Peugeot now have some nice performance cars, especially the 308 GTi. Citroen have done very little (apart from a DS3 Racing) in regards to performance cars during their WRC programme; an absolute waste.
As for RallyGB, well it's one step forwards, and two steps back. Traditionally a late autumn/ early winter event, it's now early October, and seemingly will have no night stages this year. It's meant to be a tough test for the crews; it's all well and good benefitting from the 'closed roads', but if you make a less challenging route, then is it really worth it?
I agree with an earlier poster who would like to see Thursday night stages, which are possibly repeated on the Sunday. I'd also like to see to long days on the Friday & Saturday.
I know that night stages are not so good for promotion and should be "disaster" for live coverage, but they always have been important part of rallysport...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanremo
Agreed, and they were crucial for last year's Wales and this year's Monte. Too bad we cannot have them in Finland because it doesn't get dark enough in July until the wee hours...Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Perhaps Evans didn’t quote everything, but Mr. Tavares words in that article don’t make any special mention to rally; he only says Opel will, in due time, be able to get a motorsport program, like all PSA brands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Before knowing if Citroen can fix the C3 and continue beyond 2019 (Tavares already told the program is for 3 to 5 years), it makes little sense to insist Citroen will be replaced in the WRC by Peugeot, Opel, DS or Vauxhall…
The future 208 will be launched in 2019 with a full electric version and some other Peugeot, Citroen and DS models will get electric very soon. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...a-ev-push-2018Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
I dont know if it is necessary to bring WRC to every continent. If there is no proper local rally scene...Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Well that's manus decisions and money. No matter how big scene is somewhere always there is someone with bag of money and personal interests.
Every manu will have electric versions, its good for the CO2 fleet requirements. However those serious about it are making proper one offs alongside hybridsQuote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
As far as I'm concerned, the decision to move the event to early October could be a major downside since the probable lack of muddy/foggy conditions like in 2012 (even if at the time it was held in September). Fixed or similar calendar slots should be granted to rounds whose challenging nature is defined by weather conditions (Monte Carlo, GB,...). This way it would be more likely to have the proper conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
You're right, night stages could be a disaster for live coverage but there should be no excuses for skipping them in daily recaps, since they use a recorded footage. I remember of Spain night stages in 2013 to be shown for barely 10 seconds in the highlights. It seems they are not even bothering. The video below shows them that it's possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q93_dEYLLk
At least ALL LIVE is a step forward in all ways.
Re Opel into WRC... I think its a possibility if only because the brand needs a huge boost. It really needs something to help get it seen again and seen as something cool to own/drive.
PSA appears to be looking more to the comfort-based and luxury market with its French road cars. Opel could be their new 'sporty' brand.
I just don't understand their thinking; the last 3 weekends have seen Sportscar races with plenty of night racing......Nobody there is calling for the end of night racing....it adds to the sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
The decision makers in rallying are detached from reality; Endurance & Night stages seem to go against their view of the sport.
For the population they have a lot of events, particularly in Quebec and Ontario. As long as they get access to good roads it'd be worth a try. Time of year would be a big factor since it would be a great chance for another snow rally, and the bugs in the summer up there are awful.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Spot on ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Some candidate roads for a Canadian WRC round. Bancroft, Ontario is about 2 hours drive west of Ottawa. Probably need to find similar roads closer to a larger populated area.
https://youtu.be/XwLlapSLp_I (Tall pines roads)2017
https://youtu.be/cyitl-VS2Yk Subaru/ cars at Tall Pines Rally 2017
From the Bancroft wiki entry " A village until 1999, Bancroft then merged with Dungannon Township to form the Town of Bancroft."
https://youtu.be/S2zlWVjjvxw perce neige 2018 (driver at 1.04 does a Henning Solberg and fills the car with snow)
http://rallyscoring.com/results/2018...2018Press0.htm
(Karel Carre won 2018 Perce Neige 2018 about 1' 30" in front of Crazy Leo)
Maybe alternate Canada/ Mexico different years.
Maybe run Catalunya as full tarmac event -
"WRC 1999 - Rallye Catalunya Costa Brava - Round 5" youtube video title loix, aurio kerb hopping back in the day, Sainz going for it...
https://youtu.be/p780XFqI9Ls?t=5m
Tall Pines roads seem pretty straight to me. This is from 2013, but it seemed similar to another later video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in-3XCTayr4
Could be fun with an actual WRC in the snow without studs! :D :D
Watch RMC slo-mo testing videos...nothing fun about it.:D
Politics - To misquote The League of Gentlemen, WRGB is a Welsh financed rally for Welsh locations , is Oulton Park in Wales? (listen sonny Jim....)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Cholmondeley Castle is in Cheshire which probably opened the door slightly for ideas like Oulton. But it does increasingly sound like they'll keep it in the forests this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
For "Shakeup" read pretty much the same stages as the last 4 years with clocaenog now 1 slightly longer stage. Sweet Lamb run in reverse. No night stages - how very boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanremo
True that - but less than 10 miles from the border, so probably ‘disputed territory’ by the Taffia��Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Yeah, but thats with tarmac tires!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarmop
By size yes, but thread is "all-season" in those conditions mostly. Anyway pointless crap with a 380hp 4wd designed to go flat-out, not surviving at speeds close to zero. In Monte due to different conditions occasionally yes, but not in a winter rally.
It would be a shame if Cholmondeley goes from WRGB as it's so popular and easily accessible. If they replace it with another similar spectator stage then that's not so bad, but if not I think they will be losing a great promo for the event.
Auriol wants WRC?
http://www.lexpressmada.com/blog/act...n%E2%80%88wrc/
Yes, for his 60th birthday he wants to do 1 or 2 events, just for fun. At least according to this article ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Auriol was part of teams from VAG, Ford, PSA and Toyota. He could probably get at least a R5 if he really wants.
Toyota or Ford for Auriol, please. Although I'd most rather see him in a Sierra Cosworth.
Auriol also says he won't do Finland, but maybe a tarmac event or a gravel rally he likes, such as Portugal or Argentina. He may resort to a 2016 car for the lower cost.
Grönholm just turned 50 and seems like he's passing the opportunity to do a birthday rally like Alen, Kankkunen, Vatanen, Salonen and Mikkola did before. At least he says he doesn't want to do Rally Finland, and Tommi wouldn't give him a car.
Grönholm said he would rather have done Sweden than Finland. So probably no WRC event for him
Article headed "We will perfect WRC Live TV" in this weeks Motorsport Monday contains some insight into cause of problem in accessing Monte Carlo timing on WRC.com. Underlying cause known and changes have been made to ensure the problem is not repeated.
http://mmuk.realviewdigital.com/?iid=157793#folio=35
Suomenruotsalaiset perkele?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Not so serious as much as wondering if this is correct (or intelligible) Finnish.