[WRC] News & Rumours (part V) 2017

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21st February 2017, 20:16
stefanvv

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Originally Posted by Munkvy

How much have Autosport taken this out of context/made more of it than there really is?

This
21st February 2017, 20:35
rayh_mx

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Originally Posted by Thousandlakes

Grönholm said in newest finnish rally magazine (vauhdin maailma) that he is going to secret test. OK now we know that test is with Skoda. Just guessing is it somekind start of Skodas wrc project or just r5 test without any big secrets??

Will it be the reuse of the engineering used in VW, without using that logo?
21st February 2017, 20:55
RS

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Originally Posted by rayh_mx

Will it be the reuse of the engineering used in VW, without using that logo?

VW can use Skoda's R5 experience and Skoda VW's WRC experience, seems fair :)
22nd February 2017, 05:43
liposh

Guys, to make it clear: There is 0,1% chance that this secret testing was Skoda comeback to WRC and 99,9% chance that it is secret testing of VW R5 which is simply copying of Skoda R5 knowhow.
22nd February 2017, 08:30
Mirek

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Originally Posted by RS

VW can use Skoda's R5 experience and Skoda VW's WRC experience, seems fair :)

Hold your horses Ron. I don't see a Škoda WRC coming any time soon (if at all).
22nd February 2017, 12:08
RS

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Originally Posted by Mirek

Hold your horses Ron. I don't see a Škoda WRC coming any time soon (if at all).

I know, but what I wrote would seem fair and sensible.

Skoda already issused a statement earlier in the year saying R5 works well for them, and fits well with their zero-risk 'everything must be sensible and make a profit' approach.
22nd February 2017, 16:50
itix

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Originally Posted by Allez Andruet

Jesus Christ... there's only VW to blame, no-one else. Ofcourse he'd deserve to be in WRC, no doubt, but hey, it was his employer who pulled the plug in November! The teams are allowed to make their own decisions and at the end of the day it's them who decide who's got a seat. So all this childish talk that "I don't think I have anything to prove to anybody"... aargh, it's not what you think, or what your fans or anyone else think - it's the decision the teams make. And if you're sitting mid-February without a car, then yes, you do have something to prove. Simple as that. And for the millointh time, he wasn't left without a seat as it's often being drawn out - his team just quit. There's a huge difference there.

And this "It would show the sport in a really negative way if I had to do this."... how hypocrite is that? We've had guys like Camilli doing full season, Al-Qassimi drives a factory Citroen every now and then and suddenly, if Mikkelsen would have to pay for a drive it'd "show the sport in a really negative way"?

What did Vatanen do in 1982 (as a defending World Champ)? Or Petter in 2008? They both could've used the same excuses Mikkelsen is using, but instead they actually DID something.

Correct! Coupled with his party personality and the fact that he thinks he's above certain things it does make him a prima donna

...or r princess as I would prefer. I have never really liked him and this really doesn't add to his plus account.

Ogier did a whole year in wrc 2 and his employer didn't even pull out. A lot of the time employers fall in real life, outside his bubble, and employees go to other less glorious jobs temporarily to get back to something of similar "status" eventually.
22nd February 2017, 18:03
Eli

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/febru...3--12-12-.html
Back to Olbia it is then.
22nd February 2017, 18:10
PLuto

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Originally Posted by itix

Ogier did a whole year in wrc 2 and his employer didn't even pull out.

To be correct, he was not in WRC2 or SWRC. In that entry with Skoda S2000 he was not-registered driver.
22nd February 2017, 18:11
itix

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Originally Posted by PLuto

To be correct, he was not in WRC2 or SWRC. In that entry with Skoda S2000 he was not-registered driver.

So even "worse" then.
22nd February 2017, 19:03
Hartusvuori

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Originally Posted by itix

So even "worse" then.

He was entered in Skoda by his employer. Doesn't compare with what Mikkelsen is facing now.
22nd February 2017, 19:10
stefanvv

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

He was entered in Skoda by his employer.

Actually AFAIR was his choice to drive, not obligation by VW.
22nd February 2017, 19:27
ToughMac

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Originally Posted by Mirek

Hold your horses Ron. I don't see a Škoda WRC coming any time soon (if at all).

A WRC return? It come on the back of this if there is a positive outcome.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/in...et-autumn-2017
22nd February 2017, 19:35
SubaruNorway

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

Actually AFAIR was his choice to drive, not obligation by VW.

They drove to train the mechanics, sort out the logistics and keep the drivers warm. So definitely an obligation by VW.
22nd February 2017, 19:42
dimviii

Breen
https://www.instagram.com/p/BQ0yjy6A2G6/
22nd February 2017, 20:01
stefanvv

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Originally Posted by SubaruNorway

They drove to train the mechanics, sort out the logistics and keep the drivers warm. So definitely an obligation by VW.

I thought all this was the collateral duties because Ogier wanted to drive, but I might be wrong. Never too late to learn something if true.

At least I admit that I might be wrong, not claiming something is 100% true.
22nd February 2017, 20:04
Fast Eddie WRC

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Originally Posted by itix

So even "worse" then.

During his 'Skoda time' Ogier did know he had a factory WRC seat coming at VW...
22nd February 2017, 20:08
PLuto

And dont forget that they were testing some parts for VW WRC on that Fabia. Plus collecting data for next season...
22nd February 2017, 21:53
itix

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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

During his 'Skoda time' Ogier did know he had a factory WRC seat coming at VW...

Well given Lefebvres performance and probably also Hänninens, I imagine he can be pretty sure too.
22nd February 2017, 22:05
AL14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

During his 'Skoda time' Ogier did know he had a factory WRC seat coming at VW...

This.
Guys Mikkelsen is not being arrogant at media. He is not saying he SHOULD be in a car but he is saying that he is now a professional driver and doesn't want to pay (a hige amount of money) to drive.
That's not being prima donna imo and Ogier's case is totally different. he had an agreement with VW that was building a car around him.
22nd February 2017, 22:42
danon

Mikkelsen is definitely a Donna but not a Prima. Time is ticking away sissy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfgCpOtxMJQ
23rd February 2017, 07:17
bowler

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubaruNorway

They drove to train the mechanics, sort out the logistics and keep the drivers warm. So definitely an obligation by VW.

agree with this 100%. Full VW effort
23rd February 2017, 08:27
MrJan

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Originally Posted by bowler

agree with this 100%. Full VW effort

Yep, even down to having VW colours rather than Skoda green
23rd February 2017, 22:39
danon

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Originally Posted by AL14

...Guys Mikkelsen is not being arrogant at media... he is saying that he is now a professional driver and doesn't want to pay (a hige amount of money) to drive...

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20111012140000
23rd February 2017, 23:09
Fast Eddie WRC

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Originally Posted by itix

Well given Lefebvres performance and probably also Hänninens, I imagine he can be pretty sure too.

So Mikkelsen's situation is nothing to worry about.. I 'm sure you've put his mind at rest... he's got the best rally team, car and 4 world titles coming..
24th February 2017, 00:58
itix

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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

So Mikkelsen's situation is nothing to worry about.. I 'm sure you've put his mind at rest... he's got the best rally team, car and 4 world titles coming..

I'm sure you understood perfectly well what I meant!

It isn't Prokop sitting there without a factory seat and to keep in shape while also getting paid really can't be bad.

The teams won't think less of him because of it for sure.
24th February 2017, 14:18
Eli

again 16 rallies in the calendar, this time they want to shorten the competition from 3 days of rallying to 2 & a half 'cause apparently it doesn't make a difference:
https://www.rallye-magazin.de/wm/art...ine-gute-zahl/
24th February 2017, 14:26
SubaruNorway

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eli

again 16 rallies in the calendar, this time they want to shorten the competition from 3 days of rallying to 2 & a half 'cause apparently it doesn't make a difference:
https://www.rallye-magazin.de/wm/art...ine-gute-zahl/

But we already have 2 1/2 days...
24th February 2017, 14:55
GigiGalliNo1

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Originally Posted by Eli

again 16 rallies in the calendar, this time they want to shorten the competition from 3 days of rallying to 2 & a half 'cause apparently it doesn't make a difference:
https://www.rallye-magazin.de/wm/art...ine-gute-zahl/

This is old news

They spoke about shortening the days of each rally and brining in more

But why travel for so many hours both fans, teams and media, set everything up and then have a rally for 2 days and pack up / go home?!

3-4 day rallies are best

Just like how they are now!
24th February 2017, 14:55
Eli

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubaruNorway

But we already have 2 1/2 days...

Tell that to the FIA...

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24th February 2017, 16:16
Fast Eddie WRC

Quote:

Originally Posted by itix

I'm sure you understood perfectly well what I meant!

It isn't Prokop sitting there without a factory seat and to keep in shape while also getting paid really can't be bad.

The teams won't think less of him because of it for sure.

But a year behind the rest in 2017-car practice wont do Mikkelsen's future prospects any favours.

IMO he should get into a private 2017 Fiesta asap, whatever it takes...
24th February 2017, 16:18
itix

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

But a year behind the rest in 2017-car practice wont do Mikkelsen's future prospects any favours.

IMO he should get into a private 2017 Fiesta asap, whatever it takes...

It's not like we are talking Citroen 2cv vs wrc 2017 here... And he has done many kms of testing in the - 17 Polo so he has experience.
24th February 2017, 16:59
EstWRC

FIA eyes MotoGP-style team structure for WRC

https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...or-wrc-876831/
24th February 2017, 19:13
HaCo

Quote:

Originally Posted by EstWRC

FIA eyes MotoGP-style team structure for WRC

https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...or-wrc-876831/

Good idea!
24th February 2017, 20:05
Fast Eddie WRC

Quote:

Originally Posted by itix

It's not like we are talking Citroen 2cv vs wrc 2017 here... And he has done many kms of testing in the - 17 Polo so he has experience.

True but testing isnt competing and that '17 Polo running will be a long time ago by next January.
24th February 2017, 22:06
danon

Sébastien Ogier is no longer in the top 10 most paid French sportsmen according to the latest ranking published by Team Magazine. The former Volkswagen driver was ranked tenth last year, but now ranks 13th despite steady revenues (8.1 million euros in 2016)... https://translate.google.com/transla...ecte-top-10%2F

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-conten...Carlo-2017.jpg
25th February 2017, 10:02
pantealex

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

But a year behind the rest in 2017-car practice wont do Mikkelsen's future prospects any favours.

IMO he should get into a private 2017 Fiesta asap, whatever it takes...

any 2017 WRC is what he needs, I don´t believe Fiesta is better option than others...
25th February 2017, 10:09
EstWRC

But It is the only option at the moment....
25th February 2017, 12:36
pantealex

Quote:

Originally Posted by EstWRC

But It is the only option at the moment....

Do you know how many are waiting for Fiesta ?

Maybe it´s possible to get another brand sooner...
25th February 2017, 13:08
dimviii

which is the brand that can get sooner than fiesta?

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