No one can match Ogiers pace when he is doing what he should! ;)
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No one can match Ogiers pace when he is doing what he should! ;)
Do you know if the power stage is broadcasted on any channel, please ?
it's raining on stage now
Kubica looks a level or two higher then rest of field. Neuville looks great too, but rest .... just cruising, not impress meQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Sordo is faster then Neuville so he would also impress you?? ;) ;) :D
Well I can remember someone who could match him in France ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Astro83
Kubica is doing very well in the latest rallies - different surfaces and conditions, first time for him, and very good performance. Could we see him in Citroen next year? :p
After scoring twenty second places and more than thirty podiums, Sordo deserves this win. Maybe it's now or never. On the contrary, Neuville will win many WRC's rounds. Furthermore, if Sordo won, it would mean him finding a seat next year :) .
But VW gave a lesson to Citroën everywhere else(except where Loeb was present) :mark:Quote:
Originally Posted by T.Maanteiden kuningas
Sorry for being honest here, but would that be a good thing then? He only has something to offer on asphalt. He had time enough. Pretty sure Meeke is the better allround driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kielder
And please.. The one who deserves it, is the one who was fastest at the end of the rally. Sordo doesn't deserve it "because he's been waiting for it longer." That's just a load of bull... If he doesn't lose 3 seconds in the last stage, then he deserves it.
was this here yet:
World Rally Championship Germany Piesport CRASH MUST SEE - YouTube
I don't know what I'd give to watch the powerstage live :D
very nice battle, and for sure we'll see some very happy faces at the end, maybe some happy tears? :D
Both deserve the victory in Germany, bull**** is to say Sordo doesn't deserve it ;)
IMHO a lot of places where people stading in very dangerous places :(Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
It's like Loeb drivestyle. They are fast but not looks impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Astro83
Luckily I didn't say that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
And actually, Neuville deserves it more! Because he's Belgian! And we've been waiting for a Belgian victory for so long.
San Remo 1993, Patrick Snijers.
Corsica 1995, Bruno Thiry.
Catalunya 1998, Freddy Loix.
(Australia 2005 wasn't a proper one. I wasn't satisfied. :) )
yea thats the way to go on tarmac! ;) if you slides and so on you lost time... but I understand 100% what you mean! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
Haha I cant understand you guys that says that Sordo not deserve the victory??? So much bull****... Both is worthy but I put my coins on Sordo...
I understand that you from Belgium want your countryman to win ofc! :) But dont be "childish" and say that Sordo not deserve it... bull****
Minus Sweden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
Children quarreling again...
Sigh..Quote:
Originally Posted by Astro83
He deserves it if he passes the line faster than anyone else.
My comparison to the Belgians waiting for a proper victory was just pointing out to you how ridiculous it is to say that someone 'deserves' a victory more, just because he's been waiting for it longer. It has nothing to do with that. And you should know that.
On other way, especially on that video no more other carry much speed at corners then Kubica or Neuville. Sordo takes it easy. And footage and times of 1st,2nd, half 3rd day show it clearly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Astro83
Yea I agree 100% with you, it was some other guy from Belgium whobsaid that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Integrale
How some, I said that yesterday, If Sordo finish first, he deserve it like if that was Oger, Neuville or Östberg...
Rally is all about getting first place, who cares about mistakes or how fast you were un till you end up in a ditch...
What counts is to be in first place when you go over the finish line - thats rally..
I agree...
Neuville is bloody fast how some, really like him to as a person and driver.
That's what I say, that my desire is that he doesn't lose lose three seconds in the PS. Maybe it would be the basis to recover the forgotten Sordo who was closer to Loeb on tarmac.Quote:
Originally Posted by Integrale
Moreover, half of the drivers who currently run on the WRC would would giver their eye's teeth for having the speed of Sordo on asphalt.
On the other hand, I haven't said anything about Meeke. That's what the f.....g Spanish press used to do to praise Sordo on the Mini era. It's as unfair as mentioning him now to undervalue Dani.
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Originally Posted by KKS
Yea, I can't say anything whit help of a movie, "camera lies" you know?! ;) ;)
really good fight anyway, this is how it always should be!! :)
Neuville had a slow puncture it seems..
Though it's the only real WRC victory we have in Belgium.Quote:
Originally Posted by Integrale
Just be "cool", I think Neuville will fight for the title soon if he develop in this "speed"... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
There are no unworthy winners!!
Come on Thierry, beat that loeb-servant and send him out of the sport :)
A sad incident. I heard about Chardonnet hitting a dog on the stage, but now I read the story... Apparently, these spectators wanted to install a GoPro-camera on the side of the road 45 minutes before the first car came through. But the marshalls yelled at them and scared anyone away to guarantee safety. (When I see some of the videos being posted here, I have serious doubts about the choices some spectators AND marshalls make about their safety...)
But when the cars are actually racing, there is a dog (without owner apparently) who roams the street for 4 - 5 minutes. The dog is just walking there. I can understand you can't avoid a dog being hit by a rallycar when he's just running up the SS seconds before a car passes, but with two minutes between cars, they can scare a dog away no?
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Trauriger Zwischenfall..
Wir stehen in den Weinbergen am Hetzerather Berg um die WP Moselland zu verfolgen. Wir möchten 45min vor Rennbeginn eine GoPro auf der gegenüberliegenden Seite positionieren. Die netten Menschen in gelbem Hemd, nachfolgend Marshall genannt, schreiten sofort ein, brüllen uns an, wir brechen unser Vorhaben ab. Der Gorilla schlägt sich stolz auf die Brust und die Menschenmenge ist gewarnt.. Streckensicherheit ist definitiv der wichtigste Punkt im Rallyesport, auch schon 45 min vor Beginn.. In den nächsten Minuten wechseln ausserhalb der Brüllreichweite der Marshalls noch einige Zuschauer die Seiten.. das ist ihm scheinbar egal.
Nach ca. 20 Minuten Rennbetrieb läuft ein scheinbar herrenloser Hund auf die Strecke, direkt an den Marshalls vorbei. Man schaut ihm hinterher als er geradezu auf der Piste auf die Kurve zuläuft, aus der die Autos mit geschätzten 120 kmh geschossen kommen. Ein Marshall trottet erfolglos hinterher, als der Hund, noch immer auf der Strecke, knapp vom nächsten Fahrzeug verfehlt wird. Die Menge (ca. 90-100 Zuschauer) schreit nun lauter zu den Marshalls, sie sollen doch etwas unternehmen. Man denkt: brecht ab, funkt es durch, rennt mit ner Fahne hoch, aber TUT WAS!
Das nächste Auto erwischt den Hund mit voller Wucht frontal, schleudert den Hund an die Seite. Das Foto möchte ich an dieser Stelle NICHT zeigen. Der Hund ist auf der Stelle tot, zu seinem Glück..
Der Hund ist ca. 4-5 Minuten vor aller Augen auf der Piste gewesen, es war also keine Sekundensache, für die niemand was kann. Warum stehen 3 Marshalls rum und nichts wird in die Wege geleitet? Weil es NUR ein Tier ist? Waren die Fahrer dadurch etwa nicht in Gefahr? Wie weit geht man dort??
Als die verständlicherweise aufgebrachte Menge sich lautstark gegen die Marshalls wendet, steht ihr aufgetakeltes Blondinchen vor den Männern und schreit die Leute an, wenn es ihnen nicht passe, sollten sie doch nach hause gehen.. Nee, Leute, das kann nicht im Interesse des Rallyesports sein???
Für die nächsten WP´s: Lasst euch nicht den Spass verderben, leint eure Hunde an und verlasst euch nicht auf die gelben M´s..
With regards to Sordo vs Neuville argument. Looking at the whole season, Neuville was performing much better than Sordo, so in imho, he deserves this victory more than Sordo. Why I say that, given the countless rallies Sordo took part in compared with Neuville, we did not see any sign of improvment at all from Sordo. And if he is fast on asphalt, will, give him a seat on those events, and give the chance for real talents to have the seat for the rest of the calender. In general I think Sordo seat is a waste, there are alot of talented drivers deserve that seat way much more than Sordo.
On another note, does anyone know where to see the powerstage online? any links will be much appreciated.
I have never and will never understand why people support a driver just because the person has the same nationality as yourself. It's such a weird criteria to chose IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Integrale
Sordo for sure deserves a win here. Neuvilles wins will come in the future. You Belgian guys and others have to be patient about that.
If Sordo wins, it will be a big slap on Citroen's face for doing bad things to him. I'm anxiously waiting for this amazing rally finale :D
Eight years. 107 WRC starts. 20 second places. 14 third places. Always loyal to the team and Monsieur Loeb. Sacked from Citroen because of younger, faster, French driver. Went on to Prodrive Mini to develop a very fast tarmac car and drove three podium placements to them. Team ran into financial difficulties - Dani lost his seat and became victim of politics once again.
Now, at this moment, only 24,58 kilometres of Dhrontal and Thierry Neuville stand between Dani's first win. Vamos Dani!
I think even a possible win here too late for Sordo to find a seat next year. Maybe if he win France Spain which will be hard seeing VW speed here.
Sordo deserves to win here because he has been performing all his career and been second 21 times. I think that Sordo deserves it more. But still i hope Neuville wins...
You can also support almost all drivers. That is something I don't understand. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
It's not so hard really. You're following him from his 18th year, when he drives a C2 over the limit in your own championship. Then he grows, so you keep rooting for him. And finally he delivers something. He doesn't even speak the same language as me (though he tries). But I admit that his nationality plays a certain role. "Neuville wil win many rallies..." I have a déjà-vu. The same was being said about a certain François. :)
Anyway, a bit of patriotism in sports makes it all the more interesting. Wait for World Cup 2014 :p
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Originally Posted by Frostmourne
I think you are very wrong in the way you "see it" but...
Rally by rally is the way I see it.
But I respect you anyway! ;)
I dont think they show i live sadly! :(
Will there be any live stream for the powerstage? :D