Rallye Wrc Monte Carlo 2012

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18th January 2012, 10:24
EightGear

Times aren't updating here, only 13 cars finished...
18th January 2012, 10:25
hari

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Originally Posted by EightGear

Times aren't updating here, only 13 cars finished...

http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?rz=2&filtr= works well, 20 cars here
18th January 2012, 10:25
Wim_Impreza

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

i remember Burri (or gasner ?) won a stage some long time ago in his Group N mitsubishi...

That was Hermann Gaßner in 2001 in a Proton Pert in SS2.
18th January 2012, 10:26
andyone

loeb must have had an issue. he is 21 seconds slower than ogier. in a s2000. he must have had a moment. damn ogier is flying
18th January 2012, 10:27
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by andyone

loeb must have had an issue. he is 21 seconds slower than ogier. in a s2000. he must have had a moment. damn ogier is flying

i think Ogier has bigger balls as well...on this rally its only pure speed that counts.
18th January 2012, 10:28
Bartek

Bryan hit something
18th January 2012, 10:28
gregwrc

Ogier was quicker than loeb in second stage ..... He did the 3rd time in the stage. Very good !!!

OGIER S. / INGRASSIA J. ŠKODA Fabia S2000 21:59.5

LOEB S. / ELENA D. CITROËN DS3 WRC 22:20.9
18th January 2012, 10:29
gregwrc

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.O.T

i think Ogier has bigger balls as well...on this rally its only pure speed that counts.

+1000000000000
18th January 2012, 10:29
denkimi

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

maybe they give her 4 minutes now and the problem is solved :D :D

somethimes i think you actually have some knowlegde about rally, or mabye even some common sense. but in the end you always prove me wrong. :D

anyway, ogier is faster in a s2000 than you god, so you may start crying now.
18th January 2012, 10:30
ridder

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Originally Posted by bluuford

Tänak has never driven on studded tires with Fiesta WRC and studs in front, soft behind.. car was oversteering. And he also cought Henning as usual :-)

I remember a month ago a lot of people saw Tanak as second factory driver at ford. So far his monte shows just how much experience matters.
18th January 2012, 10:31
bluuford

Looks like the conditions are getting better as well. Temperaure is climbing pretty rapidly right now and half hour difference and many cars makes big difference.
18th January 2012, 10:32
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by denkimi

somethimes i think you actually have some knowlegde about rally, or mabye even some common sense. but in the end you always prove me wrong. :D

anyway, ogier is faster in a s2000 than you god, so you may start crying now.

Knowledge is relevant...

Want me to gather my tears and mail them to you ?? you can have a shower in them...

I do it very often for 8 years in row...it is refreshing i must say.
18th January 2012, 10:33
[Madeira-Rally]

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Originally Posted by Wim_Impreza

That was Hermann Gaßner in 2001 in a Proton Pert in SS2.

It's not importante for the topic, but...
I'm quite sure it wasn't Gaßner... it was the swiss driver Olivier Gillet if I remember well!
18th January 2012, 10:35
Wim_Impreza

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Originally Posted by '[Madeira-Rally

]It's not importante for the topic, but...
I'm quite sure it wasn't Gaßner... it was the swiss driver Olivier Gillet if I remember well!

eWRC-results.com - results Rallye Monte Carlo 2001
18th January 2012, 10:35
Francis44

Amindo won a SS aswell against WRC some 3 years back and so what?! He is slow as hell now.
18th January 2012, 10:36
Josti

Quote:

Originally Posted by '[Madeira-Rally

]It's not importante for the topic, but...
I'm quite sure it wasn't Gaßner... it was the swiss driver Olivier Gillet if I remember well!

It was Gassner actually. Though Gillet happened to finish in top 10 that year.
18th January 2012, 10:36
Red bull

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Originally Posted by Micke_VOC

ohh.. Ogier third overall on the stage. =)

All eyes on Ogier and VW must be very proud of him even if its only on
this stage,this is incredible!
18th January 2012, 10:37
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by '[Madeira-Rally

]It's not importante for the topic, but...
I'm quite sure it wasn't Gaßner... it was the swiss driver Olivier Gillet if I remember well!

yes..you are correct i confused the two Oliviers
18th January 2012, 10:38
Bartek

Onboards will be very interesting :)

Guys, here you have fast online results: http://www.rallye-sport.fr/es2-monte-carlo-2012/
18th January 2012, 10:38
Fly

Gamble or not, I'm happy to see Andersson's times.
18th January 2012, 10:40
Viking

Also PG Anderson is doing the most of the conditions so far, despite some tangeling with Breen on this one..
18th January 2012, 10:42
AndyRAC

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

Seems all the Citroen cars were on the same tyres...

A certain Mr Quesnel is smiling right now....

Can never understand having the same strategy for all cars - look at Skoda last year.
18th January 2012, 10:42
Camelopard

Ogier 20 seconds faster than Loeb on the second stage! Please may it continue........ Can't wait for the official VW entry next year! :)
18th January 2012, 10:43
denkimi

cook slowest again, this is getting dangerous.
18th January 2012, 10:44
Viking

Ogier is 1,05/s km slower than fastest wrc over this loop, wery good but we have seen times like that before between S2000/WRC.
18th January 2012, 10:46
Francis44

I hope Loeb doesn't bail out of the championship this year before facing VW and Ogier next year.
18th January 2012, 10:49
Viking

I think Ogier can do this times because VW have an excellent icenote-crew ;)
18th January 2012, 10:50
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by denkimi

cook slowest again, this is getting dangerous.

don't worry the monte organisers gave her 3 minute gap...everything is ok now.
18th January 2012, 10:51
OldF

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Originally Posted by bluuford

They are allowed to take new. only problem is that now the number is tires is bit smaller.

They can change tyres seven times during a rally and use a total of 35 tyres. Four evening services and four day services.
18th January 2012, 10:52
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by Francis44

I hope Loeb doesn't bail out of the championship this year before facing VW and Ogier next year.

i think he will bail out of the championship after this day... because as we know the whole championship is decided by Montes tyre choices and whoever comes second bails out...

I think we should send Latvala to the Championship Gala after the rally since its just a few meters away no need to have the teams travel to other rallies....
18th January 2012, 10:53
Wasted Talent

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Originally Posted by Wim_Impreza

Why can she compete in PWRC with a Group A car? The P stays not for parking, but for production.

She is doing the 2wd cup part of the PWRC, and all PWRC cars have to be Group N

WT
18th January 2012, 10:54
Wasted Talent

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Originally Posted by Fly

According to rally-sport.fr, drivers start with 4 soft tires for ss1 and 2 studded tires inside the car for ss2.

I thought the regulations said that this year the drivers cannot mix studded and non-studded tyres???

WT
18th January 2012, 10:55
Francis44

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.O.T

i think he will bail out of the championship after this day... because as we know the whole championship is decided by Montes tyre choices and whoever comes second bails out...

I think we should send Latvala to the Championship Gala after the rally since its just a few meters away no need to have the teams travel to other rallies....

Im not saying this because of this rally....

From comments last year I think Loeb is inclined to leave this year at the end.
Excuse me if im the only one eager to see Loeb out of his confort zone fighting an equally fast driver in an equally powerfull team.
18th January 2012, 10:56
Wim_Impreza

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasted Talent

She is doing the 2wd cup part of the PWRC, and all PWRC cars have to be Group N

WT

Please explain me then why Harry Hunt could do the PWRC last year with a Group A car (Citroën DS3 R3T).
18th January 2012, 10:59
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francis44

Im not saying this because of this rally....

From comments last year I think Loeb is inclined to leave this year at the end.
Excuse me if im the only one eager to see Loeb out of his confort zone fighting an equally fast driver in an equally powerfull team.

We do not know yet how powerful the VW is...

and i think in those 8 years of dominance he beat guys and legends like they were nothing... so i do not think how much this "comfort" zone had its part.
18th January 2012, 11:04
Wasted Talent

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wim_Impreza

Please explain me then why Harry Hunt could do the PWRC last year with a Group A car (Citroën DS3 R3T).

Good question!! I have no idea............

WT
18th January 2012, 11:09
Viking

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Originally Posted by denkimi

cook slowest again, this is getting dangerous.

What! I have her second in PWRC, she just need a little bit of luck and a Kosciuszko off before we can read wery funny press realises :D
18th January 2012, 11:13
Brother John

I got my first idea of the first WRC rally in 2012 written in http://www.motorsportforums.com/wrc/...-pub-talk.html
18th January 2012, 11:13
dimviii

Good morning to everybody!
Big gaps from tyre choices.I wouldn t make any predictions.Totally gambling till now.Lets wait some stages more.
18th January 2012, 11:16
Fly

Great start from Seb Chardonnet, aged 23, on the Clio R3, giving Robert a fight. Former circuit driver and grandson of the man who entered Darniche's Stratos in the late 70's.

Only 2 years in rallying.

Another Seb...

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