Colin at WRR had a good point - if Ogier would have been penalized yesterday hed never gone off.
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Colin at WRR had a good point - if Ogier would have been penalized yesterday hed never gone off.
Care to explain? I can't listen to WRR right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
he would be second and nothing to fight for.....so no accident
Hed got one minute penalty and could have cruised to the second place. According to Colins comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
You can have an accident while cruising, so that logic isn't waterproof. But the main point for me is: shame. I like Ogier talent and the fact that he can keep a lead while sweeping. This wouldn't have been necessarily an easy win for Seb1 - but now it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Latvala nearly won his second stage 0.1 slower than Loeb :-P
Everyone is cruising right now...
Until the power stage...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Well well, looks like Mikko is scoring good amount of points and continue leading the championship. Not bad from a sick dog :)
Mikko is saving tyres for the Power Stage. He lost almost 20 seconds compare to Loeb&JML, this is I think the only reason for not pushing hard....
But shame for young Ogier, it would be interseting to see smile on Mikko&JML&Wilson senior's face.....
Looks like Block is going to score one point here, bearing in mind the fact that Ogier has been stopped nearly 30 minutes already.
So, powerstage.. I think that Loeb takes it very sensibly. He is the last remaining official Citroen and he has to make sure to finish and keep the car in the middle of the road and hope that Solberg takes maximum points on powerstage.
Just arrived home from a rallysprint, ate some chicken and came to check the results. Bloody incredible.
Should I start a thread "Time's up for Ogier"... :D ;)
That would be his 3rd championship point.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
I don't know how long is Mr. Quesnel able to guarantee equal treatment for Loeb and Ogier ?? Having two hungry drivers in one team can be bad for the business......
I'm amazed such a thread isnt' there already ?? :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
Can someone care to post top 5 positions right now? Who is leading?
ok we had the bitter ford kids..... now we have the bitter finnish kids.....let ogier have the same experience as latvala then i will start such a thread...now go cry in the corner with bobcat and the rest.
Loeb-Hirvonen-Latvala-Solberg-Ostberg
Loeb was somehow really distracted by the fact that Ogier went off.. so maybe mr Q told him not to push Ogier today :-P
LOEB S. / ELENA D. "I was not happy to see him there. He is my teammate. No team orders. But I have to push. I wanted to fight."
Sorry Mr. Mousefart, as I look around... can't see anybody crying :DQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
no mirrors where you are ?
Pitty for Ogier as he had a very good rally till tis ss.
Loeb now the absolute king in Citroen Sport.Even if Quesnel seems that ''likes'' Ogier more than Loeb,now he can t let Ogier to attack Loeb in future rallies.Citroen sport after the not good rally in Sweden(in term of points) are not going to collect so much points in Mexico.So must play safe in next rallies without leting drivers attacking each other....and this is not good for us.
Another point is psycology of Ogier.Like that wasn t Latvala in his early days?Too fast but not always safe.Hope to be more lucky than Jari.
The problem however will be how is he going to sell that order to Ogier ??? Seems that Ogier is a kinda of a guy who doesn't swallow that kind of order without biting..... like he shouldn't :mark:Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Please do not compare Ogier and Latvala, Latvala in official team wasn't able most of the times to reach the end of the first day.
I can say that Ogiers exit was Quesnels mistake.You can t leave your 2 drivers while they are minutes in front of competition to have a dogfight among them.Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
ok maybe he likes young Ogier more,but 7 world championships from Loeb cant be forgoten with ease.and now he pays his stupidity.my 2 cents
what indication you have and you say that ogier will not comply ??
Off the topic, does anybody remember how stormy was service area back in the days when Delecour was ordered to move in front of Panizzi?? They almost wrestled there.... Hopefully Loeb and Ogier have a little less temperament :)
At citroen the general rule all these years is to let the drivers fight until someone got the upper hand....Loeb is going to be champion for the 8th concecutive year...Ogier will be second. The rest are going to feed off their tablescraps....as usual. Fords only chnace to do anything this year is simply to withdraw Wilsons budget and push it towards the development of the car.
Well Citroen has to deal very gently with both drivers, if they start applying orders to Ogier he seems like the kind of guy with will to leave and go to VW if they enter.
Dont think so that Ogier can t swallow orders.I think that you cant swallow orders only when your manager allows you.Remember last year when Ogier allowed to win in front of Loeb without the championships were safe for Citroen?Quesnels push for Ogier were obvious for me long time ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
no...Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
Is this question for me?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
If it is, I base my assumption purely by the statements Ogier has made to the media, that is he won't tolerate the same treatment Sordo had a second driver.
I doubt there's much worry about Ogier leaving Citroen... they're still his best chance for victory. If VW enters they likely won't be competitive for a year or two at least, and by then Loeb might be retired anyways. Regardless, I think Loeb is still the faster driver. Ogier is quick, but he's no Loeb.
Comply means? Sorry didn t understantQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
the quote was for AFF
comply = symorfothei
And I answered.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Results after SS20:
1) Loeb [Citroen] 3:33:13,3
2) Hirvonen [Ford] +1:37,8
3) Latvala [Ford] +2:33,4
4) Solberg, P. [Citroen] +7:04,5
5) Ostberg [Ford] +8:28,5
6) Solberg, H. [Ford] +9:24,0
7) Block [Ford] +43:38,8
8) Villagra [Ford] +45:42,6
No fights, only Power Stage keeps the interest.
finnish media i presume ???Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
That would be suicide.he is very young,and Loeb has no more than 1 or maybe 2 years.You don t leave best team without serious reasons for something with unknown reliability/speed/treatment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
Said the foolish and bitter Greek child... F.Y.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T