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26th January 2013, 04:01
stefanvv

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

One quick answer: because of the apparent desperation, through ever shorter routes with repeated stages, to turn rallying into some kind of close relative of rallycross or circuit racing. It completely, utterly misunderstands the nature of the sport, and — while different opinions are all well and good — I have found it rather disheartening in recent days to read so many apparent fans of the sport saying they think the days of long routes belong only in the past. To me, this too represents a lack of appreciation of what rallying should be about. Not every event, not every stage, need be a 100 per cent flat-out blast. And, certainly, when shown on TV as recorded highlights this never need be commentated on 'as live'.

I may presume you never heard American Rally commentator, OMG that was I can call disaster. What we have is completely normal currently. I also have some nostalgy about Rally in 80's, but we're all aware that times are gone for good, and never are going to come back.
26th January 2013, 14:27
Koceens

Although I'm not a fan of Paul King it's still better than boring Karlton Kirby in Eurosport. Always have that feeling he is not interested in rallying at all.
26th January 2013, 14:55
rallyfiend

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Originally Posted by Koceens

Although I'm not a fan of Paul King it's still better than boring Karlton Kirby in Eurosport. Always have that feeling he is not interested in rallying at all.

He seems to spend more time making himself more important than the programme he's talking about.

He's dire.
26th January 2013, 17:32
SDG

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Originally Posted by RAS007

Paul King's commentary is an abomination. He can ruin a rally all by himself. I have no earthly idea why he is persisting with this utter, utter drivel that is the the pretend "live" commentary over recorded footage. You ask a good question above: why can't they do a proper review programme? I think one of the answers is simply a lack of knowledge and understanding about the sport, and the other is laziness. I get the distinct impression from listening to King that he does not have a firm grasp of what the sport is really about.

On the official F1 review dvd's up to some years ago, Ben Edwards used the same presentation style, by adding 'live' commentary over recorded footage. The last couple of years however, he fortunately has switched to a more naturally, narrative style of commentating.
26th January 2013, 18:03
A FONDO

I just want to say I don't dislike PK. Yes he is a bit overreacting with the "live" outbursts but except that he has a nice "glossary", flowing speech and good pronounciation with limited british accent. He is 1000000 times better than last year's MOTORS performance with CC and the other guy, they didn't even know what and when to speak no matter how bad they did it. Or the mentioned eurosport narrator who always seems so bored and displeased.
26th January 2013, 18:11
BDunnell

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Originally Posted by SDG

On the official F1 review dvd's up to some years ago, Ben Edwards used the same presentation style, by adding 'live' commentary over recorded footage. The last couple of years however, he fortunately has switched to a more naturally, narrative style of commentating.

I think it's much more acceptable on racing than on rallying.
26th January 2013, 18:55
MrJan

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I think it's much more acceptable on racing than on rallying.

Indeed, Simon Taylor used to do it to good effect on F3000 races IMO.

Interesting to see so many people defending Paul King because "he's not as bad as...." is that really what we should be accepting?
26th January 2013, 20:35
BDunnell

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Originally Posted by MrJan

Indeed, Simon Taylor used to do it to good effect on F3000 races IMO.

As did Murray Walker and Charlie Cox on the BTCC, and many others as well.

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Originally Posted by MrJan

Interesting to see so many people defending Paul King because "he's not as bad as...." is that really what we should be accepting?

Quite. He's just not suited to the role. Each to their own, I know, and somewhat off topic, but the apparently successful careers of certain motorsport commentators really do mystify me. Carlton Kirby and Andrew Marriott are both notably awful, and how anyone in the ITV4 hierarchy could have listened to Toby Moody on the BTCC last year and thought 'Yes, this is as good as we could get' is baffling. Doing a rally narration properly is not rocket science — Mark James and Steve Rider, and earlier Murray Walker and Dickie Davies, all did it extremely well. Paul King is in no way on their level, and you're right — it shouldn't be tolerated.
4th February 2013, 15:14
Forest 20

As there is still no news on UK coverage, here are some TV listings for WRC Sweden, all GMT (language mostly German):

Servus TV
4th 21.35 – 22.05
5th 01.15 -01. 45
9th 09.35 – 10.05
9th 23.10 – 23.35
11th 21.35 – 22.35
12th 01.10 – 02.05

Sport 1
8th 16.30 -17.30
9th 15.30 – 16.00
10th 20.00 – 21.00
5th February 2013, 13:23
Fast Eddie WRC

Still no UK coverage sorted ? And we have a Brit involved now !
5th February 2013, 13:40
BDuncan

Excellent.
5th February 2013, 13:43
BDuncan

I forgot to ask about the TV coverage, so thanks.
5th February 2013, 21:40
Fast Eddie WRC

Plenty of coverage on Sport TV in Portugal:

Streams for the channels are here: SPORTV GRATIS ONLINE - Sport TV 1 grátis, sporttv online

Preview on now !
6th February 2013, 05:47
stefanvv

Sweden previw is on laola tv already in english:
Rally Sweden: Magazine ::: Free Sport Live Streams / Videos
7th February 2013, 09:04
RS

No Sweden on tv in the UK. They have a deal for Rally GB tho!
7th February 2013, 12:01
AndyRAC

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Originally Posted by RS

No Sweden on tv in the UK. They have a deal for Rally GB tho!

Yes, that was repeorted in MNews – still don’t know who the channel is mind you.

What I find unacceptable, is Rally Sweden will have some Live coverage – but only in Sweden. Why isn’t this on RedBullTV, the WRC website??
7th February 2013, 12:39
MrJan

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

Yes, that was repeorted in MNews – still don’t know who the channel is mind you.

What I find unacceptable, is Rally Sweden will have some Live coverage – but only in Sweden. Why isn’t this on RedBullTV, the WRC website??

Seem to remember that it was reasonably easy to find last year, just takes some searching on justin.tv or livetv.ru.

Does anyone know how soon the WRC site has the highlights online? Just wondering if there's a chance of seeing daily highlights or whether I have to wait until after the event like I've done when youtubing in the past.
7th February 2013, 12:55
stefanvv

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Originally Posted by MrJan

Seem to remember that it was reasonably easy to find last year, just takes some searching on justin.tv or livetv.ru.

Does anyone know how soon the WRC site has the highlights online? Just wondering if there's a chance of seeing daily highlights or whether I have to wait until after the event like I've done when youtubing in the past.

I don't, but you should find them sooner than wrc.com here - FIA World Rally Championship ::: Free Sport Live Streams / Videos
7th February 2013, 21:52
Fast Eddie WRC

WRCforeva had daily highlights for Monte Carlo... hopefully same for Sweden :)

https://www.youtube.com/user/WRCforeva?feature=watch
8th February 2013, 11:48
SDG

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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

WRCforeva had daily highlights for Monte Carlo... hopefully same for Sweden :)

Unfortunately he had to remove them due to a copyright claim, just as MotorsportFunCyprus. So I don't think you will find any more coverage on their YT pages in the future.
8th February 2013, 12:31
MrJan

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Originally Posted by SDG

Unfortunately he had to remove them due to a copyright claim, just as MotorsportFunCyprus. So I don't think you will find any more coverage on their YT pages in the future.

Happens for most events. I nearly always watch the WRCForeva or LatvalaFan (think that's the username) videos, and they always get taken down after a while.
8th February 2013, 22:09
stefanvv

If it's not posted yet, Sweden day 1 report will begin in about 10 minutes here - SPORTV GRATIS ONLINE - Sport TV 2 grátis, sporttv2 online
10th February 2013, 21:47
stefanvv

Sweden final day coverage on 23:00 CET here - SPORTV GRATIS ONLINE - Sport TV 2 grátis, sporttv2 online
12th February 2013, 08:58
stefanvv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueRv-aiCleI
12th February 2013, 08:58
stefanvv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6mkf8Z67wg
14th February 2013, 12:58
EightGear

SKY IN LINE FOR WRC TV DEAL
Sky is being tipped as the British broadcaster most likely to show the WRC in the UK. A deal has still not been confirmed, but it is hoped it will be in place for round three, Rally Mexico, next month.

From autosport magazine.
14th February 2013, 13:19
tommy2k8

I really hope so! Can you post a link to the article on the Autosport web site?
14th February 2013, 13:30
EightGear

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Originally Posted by tommy2k8

I really hope so! Can you post a link to the article on the Autosport web site?

It is from the Magazine, not from the website. More than the text I quoted doesn't exist. ;)
14th February 2013, 13:35
tommy2k8

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Originally Posted by EightGear

It is from the Magazine, not from the website. More than the text I quoted doesn't exist. ;)

Ok, thanks - the current issue?
14th February 2013, 13:45
EightGear

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Originally Posted by tommy2k8

Ok, thanks - the current issue?

Yes, today's one.
14th February 2013, 18:59
RS

I am sure Sky would do a good job like they have with the F1 but it is not ideal to have it on a pay channel, especially if it is on the F1 or Sports channels as these cost even more than a basic Sky subscription. I remember when WRC was on ESPN the viewing figures were really dreadful.

Maybe Sky could rebrand "Sky F1 HD" as "Sky Motorsport" though and then WRC would have a good synergy.
14th February 2013, 20:11
AndyRAC

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Originally Posted by RS

I am sure Sky would do a good job like they have with the F1 but it is not ideal to have it on a pay channel, especially if it is on the F1 or Sports channels as these cost even more than a basic Sky subscription. I remember when WRC was on ESPN the viewing figures were really dreadful.

Maybe Sky could rebrand "Sky F1 HD" as "Sky Motorsport" though and then WRC would have a good synergy.

Sounds sensible, so it's unlikely to happen. Remember when Sky had Indycar? That wasn't on the F1 channel, that makes me doubt them putting it on Sky F1 HD. The reason they put GP2/3 on there is because it's a F1 feeder series.

Didn't MNews last week mention that it wasn't a financial issue - so it was more likely there wasn't any interest from FTA channels?
15th February 2013, 13:23
Fast Eddie WRC

Quote:

Originally Posted by RS

I am sure Sky would do a good job like they have with the F1 but it is not ideal to have it on a pay channel, especially if it is on the F1 or Sports channels as these cost even more than a basic Sky subscription. Maybe Sky could rebrand "Sky F1 HD" as "Sky Motorsport" though and then WRC would have a good synergy.

I said exactly this weeks ago when the Monte-Carlo wasnt on UK TV...

It would be great for Sky to get it on as they do sport properly. :)
21st February 2013, 12:54
EightGear

Now suddenly ITV4 looks most likely for the UK.

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads6/512...417558-ITV.png
21st February 2013, 13:44
Sprocket

If we are only getting 1 hour on a Sunday night, looks like I'll be sticking with all you guys following the threads for official vids, live feeds and fan videos during the rally. It's more fun anyway! ;)
21st February 2013, 14:29
GritPics

Still, I'm not going to complain.
1 hour on a Sunday on ITV4 is better than nothing.
21st February 2013, 14:32
makinen_fan

For me is better one decent hour of review than 3 23 minutes programms that show a lot of repeats from previous days. Also being open in ITV4 than skysports is a significant plus. Lets hope they manage to sort it out
21st February 2013, 15:58
Forest 20

Well lets hope ITV 4 get the coverage.

In the mean time German TV coverage times for Mexico:

Servus TV

March

9th 09.30 – 10.00

9th 23.45 – 00.10

11th 21.45 – 23.45

Sport 1

8th 17.30 – 18.00

9th 18.30 – 19.00

10th 20.00 – 21.00

All times GMT
21st February 2013, 16:48
Fast Eddie WRC

Get it sorted someone please !!
21st February 2013, 19:45
Gordini

When will live streaming be used? Redbull need to come with new thing!

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