Religious terrorism - and all terrorism for that matter, SUCKS!
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Religious terrorism - and all terrorism for that matter, SUCKS!
This topic could get ugly in a hurry.
I will say this.... True Islam is not a peaceful religion. Anyone who tells you this falls under 2 categories...1. They dont really know what true Islam is. 2. They do know but lie to you about it and try to hide the fact that its a violent religion.
DanicaFan and Bob Riebe, are you theologians? What do you understand about "true Islam" or the Muslim faith? I gather you are both American. You seem to have this rather sad proclivity of lumping everyone into one category without really knowing much. Reminds me of a time when I saw John McCain being interviewed while he was in Iraq and had to be told by a Jewish member of the Senate which sect of the Muslim faith was practiced in Iran. And, he was running for President. Sheesh.
Then we have this Henner chap speaking about Northern Ireland and all he mentions is the PIRA as though only the Nationalists were bombing and murdering. I would like to remind him of the Shankhill Butcher. A member of the UFF (Loyalist and Presbyterian) who drove the streets of Belfast in a taxi cab picking up innocent Catholics and torturing them to death along with his cronies. His trade. He was a butcher. How was he caught? A man whose throat he/they had slit survived. He became an MP.
In addition I'd like to point out the 1975 bombings in Dublin and Monaghan. Along with the UDA and the SAS, yes, the SAS they were/are the prime suspects in the bombings that killed 29 innocents by placing bombs in three strategic areas of Dublin and Monaghan. So sophisticated were these devices that it was concluded only experts in the SAS were capable of putting them together. It took almost thirty years for this to come out along with the SAS gunning down of three members of the IRA who were "planning" to set of a device in Gibraltar. At trial witnesses stated that two of those killed were pleading for their lives and unarmed. The SAS members appeared in court at a hearing wearing hoods. Kinda like the KKK.
So, were these three IRA members on a religious crusade or were the SAS trying to disrupt the initiatives of Wilson the British PM?
When did Henner ever hear anything from the PIRA or the UDA, UFF, RHU ever utter anything to do with Christianity?
Stop painting a religion with same brush you do with terrorists and ignore the good and righteous people who practice in peace.
I bet half of those arguing or maybe even more than that were in support of invading Iraq to oust Hussein and free the Muslim Koran worshiping Muslims because it was George Bush a Republican that was President. Then when it came to President Obama they leveled their ignorant barbs on him claiming (oh my god) that he was a Muslim. I used to get a channel named Fox but now watch it on You Tube to see those with a brain lambaste the ignorance that is so pervasive in an uneducated and easily led populace.
So, now you bash the whole Muslim faith when it seems you do not have one idea of what you are talking or writing about.
I do know what Im talking about. I am an American and a Christian and proud to be both. I have studied Islam, taken classes, went to lectures, talked with local pastors about it. Trust me, its not peaceful. If you think it is, then you dont believe what the Koran says. It clearly states to kill and death to all non-believers. Is that peaceful ?
I dont have time rite now but I can get in depth to what I am saying and back it up with verses, studies, etc. I think you fall in the #2 category my friend.
My apologies, but the fact that you think 'rite now' is a phrase and forget the apostrophe in 'I'm' indicates to me that you may not, perhaps, be the best person to undertake such a study as you claim to have done.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanicaFan
Talked with local pastors about it? Pastors? Christian pastors by any chance?Quote:
Originally Posted by DanicaFan
Be fair now Ben. He has also talked with local pastors about it... that must count for something too!
p.s. you missed the missing apostrophe in 'dont' :p
either they wereQuote:
Originally Posted by GridGirl
1) christian pastors
or
2) they were muslim 'pastors' and he doesn't know the slightest bit about Islam :laugh:
So are you suggesting that instead, we ignore all the horrible parts of religion and cherry-pick the good bits and get excited, shouting 'Look! That's religion!'?Quote:
Originally Posted by monadvspec
I'm glad you said that pointed out that Donkey. I was trying my hardest to not laugh and be nice to DanicaFan. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by donKey jote