Sebastien Ogier

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Originally Posted by colonel W.I.G

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Originally Posted by Langdale Forest

what is this?

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

As was said previously... Citroen has far better tools to jeopardise Ogier if they want, so i see no reason for ogier to take risks.

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I understand those comments, I have read them. The point I wanted to make is that Ogier has now won more rallies this season than Loeb. I am unsure whether he would want to ruin that effort by effectively racing for second place for the next to rallies and allowing Loeb to win. What is there to jeopardize? If he is going to Ford anyway what does it matter if he leave Citroen with a bloody nose? As a professional sportsman I would expect Ogier to do all that he can to win this championship on his own back. He has ignored team orders before and got away with it, why not now???

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Originally Posted by Plan9

I understand those comments, I have read them. The point I wanted to make is that Ogier has now won more rallies this season than Loeb. I am unsure whether he would want to ruin that effort by effectively racing for second place for the next to rallies and allowing Loeb to win. What is there to jeopardize? If he is going to Ford anyway what does it matter if he leave Citroen with a bloody nose? As a professional sportsman I would expect Ogier to do all that he can to win this championship on his own back. He has ignored team orders before and got away with it, why not now???

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Why not now? Because he doesn't have the element of surprise. if he manages to spring a last minute win over SL in Spain how good do you think his car for GB will be? (A quick swap with Petter's car, a couple of paint jobs and Bob's yer uncle!). His only hope is for Loeb to have another error induced mechanical failure on day 1 and to then get 15+ points from the rally. Actually he needs a max in those circumstances as he usually rolls it on WRGB anyway! ;-)
Can't see anything but an 8th title for Old Seb

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Originally Posted by Plan9

I understand those comments, I have read them. The point I wanted to make is that Ogier has now won more rallies this season than Loeb. I am unsure whether he would want to ruin that effort by effectively racing for second place for the next to rallies and allowing Loeb to win. What is there to jeopardize? If he is going to Ford anyway what does it matter if he leave Citroen with a bloody nose? As a professional sportsman I would expect Ogier to do all that he can to win this championship on his own back. He has ignored team orders before and got away with it, why not now???

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If citroen relises that Ogier is a threat to Loeb....then at the service they will chance the ecu program of his car so it doen't have so much power...so Ogier even if he wants to do such an unprofessional thing he would not be able to...although professional sportsmen do EXACTLY what their employers say....

where exactly did he ingore team orders ??? Australia ???

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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory

Why not now? Because he doesn't have the element of surprise. if he manages to spring a last minute win over SL in Spain how good do you think his car for GB will be? (A quick swap with Petter's car, a couple of paint jobs and Bob's yer uncle!). His only hope is for Loeb to have another error induced mechanical failure on day 1 and to then get 15+ points from the rally. Actually he needs a max in those circumstances as he usually rolls it on WRGB anyway! ;-)
Can't see anything but an 8th title for Old Seb

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Team orders are being applied long before the last stage of the rally so he will not be able to surprise anyone....Citroen will tell him on day 2-3 to to stay clear of Loeb...if he doesn't citroen will make sure the car does.