4 degrees of camber

I agree Arrows. The FIA have a habit of trying to turn F1 into a nanny series.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

True, but but in the last 20yrs or so the FIA has increasingly stepped in when there is any hint of a safety issue (largely as a result of Imola 1994), and it seems clear there have been safety concerns with the tyres in Spa and again this weekend.

If the teams are going beyond the limits of the tyres, against all the advice of Pirelli, then the FIA see it as their job to step in.

There are some comparisons to be made with the Indy GP fiasco. I know the problem then was the tyres themselves, not the use of them by the teams, but Michelin made suggestions as to how the tyres could be made to last and so actually race. In this case the FIA rejected those suggestions and a race of sorts could go ahead because there was another tyre supplier in F1.

Now, there is no alternative. The FIA wanted a single tyre supplier (the motivation for the treatment of Michelin) so that it could use the tyres as a means to slow speeds and 'spice up the show'.

It's an example of the way the FIA regulates almost every aspect of the cars, to the extent that teams and designers have a very small window for development and innovation.

That's the way F1 is in 2011. I don't particularly like it but unless and until the regulations are freed up it's what we have.

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You mean safety is in mind when they constantly screw with the tires so the teams have no clue what they are getting race weekend? When they purposely make them drop off percipitously? When they want drivers struggling to keep grip after ~10 laps.

You mean safety was in mind when they tried to ban the diffusers, even though the cars were designed with the stability afforded by those diffusers?

You mean safety was in mind when they restarted a race that was almost entirely done in monsoon-like conditions this year, yet for the past 20+ years they would have just ended that race and called it a weekend?

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Originally Posted by vhatever

I can't believe how long you been here with so many posts and this is the kind of nonsense you post?? I assume you have been watching F! all that time? What the hell are you talking about? Should the FIa regulate how many laps you can drive on any given tire, too? Cause that's way more risky then driving with a camber that tends to blister the tires.

Your entire nonsnse about pirelli and tire failure is so mindbogglingly retarded and so detached from reality I can only.... Oh wait I see the flag.




Suddenly "it" all makes so much sense.


What a joke.

This is nothing more than the inbred trash running the FIA trying to screw over vettel/red bull. The end. They don't care about the drivers. They don't care about "brand name". Last i checked, purposely making garbage tires doesn't exactly raise your stock as a "good" tire company.

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Listen I don't have time for this, so I am only going to ask you once: quit personal insults/comments right now...or you will be history in here !

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Originally Posted by pino

Listen I don't have time for this, so I am only going to ask you once: quit personal insults/comments right now...or you will be history in here !

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Time for what? Is calling someone's argument illogical/nonsensical a "personal insult"? If so, I'd wonder how anyone could still be posting here cause I see 2309743074230974 times worse every day.


Or are you refering to me calling the FIA inbred?

Does the FIA have an account here? ROFL.

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Originally Posted by henners88

So are a few people more in favour of durable tyres that last two thirds of the race and keeps the pack in a steady order?

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Artificially created overtaking opportunities =/= racing and it will never be.

There was great racing in F1 before and there will be also after this crap tires phase. The problem is with the viewers not with the sport itself.

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Originally Posted by henners88

I'm enjoying the racing now like I did 23 years ago when I started watching.

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That's you business, not everyone is you.

I'm with Henners. Not everyone is you ioan.

I bet if you took a poll, you would find more people prefer the action we are getting this year to the snorefest of a few years ago.

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

I'm with Henners. Not everyone is you ioan.

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What a surprise! :laugh:

Nature and its laws...

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Originally Posted by henners88

Wait for it Knockie you'll get a PM telling you you are an uncivilized Brit with no class. lol

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The normal ones from a certain banned member threaten to do me over :laugh: I may be an uncivilised Brit, but an uncivilised Brit that would have no problem throwing a bitch slap to a snivelling keyboard jockey that hides behind a screen :laugh:

Bring it on :D

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

The normal ones from a certain banned member threaten to do me over :laugh: I may be an uncivilised Brit, but an uncivilised Brit that would have no problem throwing a bitch slap to a snivelling keyboard jockey that hides behind a screen :laugh:

Bring it on :D

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Thus spake the keyboard jokey from his screen! :rotflmao: