Please Mikko, something different this time!! (an open letter)

Gronholm and Ogier have been Loebs biggest rivals so far in Loebs career IMO. I dont think Citroen will quit when loeb retires(I dont think he will retire at the end of the year) Only when Citroen fail to win their first manufacturer championship after Loeb leads, I think the funding will dissapear miraculously. A bit like what hapenned with Peugeot when Audi tore them a new a**ehole in LeMans.

Shhhh, we are not supposed to talk about Le Mans here :D

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

Shhhh, we are not supposed to talk about Le Mans here :D

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Originally Posted by COD

Like M.Grönholm said on Finnish paper: Citroen will quit when Loeb retires, so Mikko will never be no.1 in any team

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I don't think Citroen would be that stupid. Backing out when Loeb retires would be a serious blow to their credibility.

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

Shhhh, we are not supposed to talk about Le Mans here

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You learned the lesson well :up:

Out of despair, the only way is going Le Mans discussion when it hurts in the WRC :)

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Originally Posted by Karukera

You learned the lesson well :up:

Out of despair, the only way is going Le Mans discussion when it hurts in the WRC :)

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Hurts? No, I don't see VW entered yet, so it doesn't. On the other hand looks like Le Mans subject hurts very much :D but that's not my problem

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Hurts? No, I don't see VW entered yet, so it doesn't.

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You're childishly picking up satisfaction in another sport to cure your WRC frustration.

I have no special if not distant interest in Le Mans except for my general culture, so no harm done.

As for VW, i can't wait to see the multi dozens of millions of that fabulous treasure chest budget in action on the stages against Loeb/Hirvonen :up: .

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Originally Posted by Karukera

You're childishly picking up satisfaction in another sport to cure your WRC frustration.

I have no special if not distant interest in Le Mans except for my general culture, so no harm done.

As for VW, i can't wait to see the multi dozens of millions of that fabulous treasure chest budget in action on the stages against Loeb/Hirvonen :up: .

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Oh My Dear God. You didn't understood the irony there didn't you? Anyway I used Le Mans for an example of how good Germans are to punish some French arrogance and put some people into place. Anyway N2 I really don't care if Loeb gets 8-9-10 titles, he got them - good for him, surely the current situation is not good for the sport - that is my point.

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

Gronholm was a far better driver than Hirvonen and in the history of the sport he also is higher than him so far...

But that doesn't mean he can spout idiotic things (of course IF those are his words and not another star trek story from the Finnish media like the latvala contract which is most likely either false of a pay drive)

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But you spout idiotic things here every day.

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

that is my point.

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There you come out of the woods. You basically pile up to the nationality bashing crowd.

Silly and complete waste of time.

For the record, PSA have been winning (at least) a title since 2000, it's mostly a one nation effort (decently funded) against an Anglo-US coalition.
But they barely advertise their wins when they should in what is also an industrial confrontation.
I neither see Loeb having an exagerated inflated head when he should after 8 titles in a row.
With the contribution of Hirvonen, Citroën are way ahead in both championships and on a streak of 5 wins including four 1-2 but they're still playing it low profile.

So i don't see your point but hey, nationality bashing has spoken.