As a Ferrari and Massa fan, I feel terrible at the decision. Hammy won fair and square. Hope the decision is overturned.
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As a Ferrari and Massa fan, I feel terrible at the decision. Hammy won fair and square. Hope the decision is overturned.
Poll added :)
Damn....the race I wanted to see but could not...was helping my mom-in-law to move into her new home and so there was no cable/dish setup.
Went out and got a DTH service in the evening but it will get installed today!
Should have stayed at home ....my wife would have killed me though if I had been watching the GP instead of helping out :p :
Need to find when the replay is on Star Sports....
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Originally Posted by "Jag_Warrior":2pnx13r4
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Originally Posted by ioan
Did you ever see a sport where the people involved are also the judge?
It will always boil down to subjective positions towards the one incriminated. Not to mention that they hardly know the rules, and the drivers wouldn't want to learn them either.
In order to have an objective result for any incident you will need to have judges that aren't involved in the competition or business.
Spirit of the blitz eh wot wot?Quote:
Originally Posted by philipbain
Very interesting info.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICKE
From this video it seems like Lewis didn't let Kimi back, it seems like he simply lost out under acceleration because he had less grip on the run out area than the Ferrari on the track.
I would, however, like to see the telemetry data the stewards had, before deciding what was right and what was wrong.
The question is, why would any other manufacturer go along with the cheaters to create a break-away series?!Quote:
Originally Posted by gloomyDAY
The FIA need competant race stewards.
Hamilton was a victim of circumstance there. There was no way that he could've made that chicane, because he had to go to the outside to avoid hitting Raikkonen braking extremely early, but wasn't far enough in front to dictate the line through the chicane.
In other words, he gained an advantage in the sense that he took the only line availiable which involved him not totalling his car.
He fully conceded the position he gained, allowing Raikkonen to get his car totally in front of his own, and on the racing line. That's what I have always interpreted as negating an advantage from cutting a chicane. He didn't jump the chicane to save time, he jumped it because he was forced to.
It was not like Hungary 2006 where Schumacher passed de la Rosa by cutting the chicane and only let him get a nose past before intentionally shutting the door. And there was no penalty given there, even though he was not negating the advantage. And the rules for chicane jumping have not changed.
Permanent race stewards are needed, because at the moment the stewards are just so horribly inconsistent (I am hoping they dont already have permanent race stewards).
Pretty typical though. The FIA wants a formula allowing more racing, then they get it and punish the drivers for racing. Incredible.
I hope you realize that there is a difference in distance between the cars in your 2 pictures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
Also in the second picture they are not going into La Source, they are barely going over the start-finish line (you can see the starting grid traced on the tarmac).
Will we ever get to have access to the data that the stewards saw, in order to be able to take our own decisions? I think it would be a good step forward for F1 to make public such data.
Did you hear that Bernie? That would make it interesting for us, not seeing the Fing mobile billboards 30 more times a race!
No way, you lot would be than complaining about consistency again! So make up your mind, do you want consistent penalties or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderbolt