very big fight,at ss 10 Neubauer took 4,5 sec from Baumschlager and leas with 1,3 sec
at ss 11 Baumschlager took 2,2 and now leading with 0,9 sec.
Mayr in the mix,sometimes faster from both at his first drive with ds3 wrc!
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very big fight,at ss 10 Neubauer took 4,5 sec from Baumschlager and leas with 1,3 sec
at ss 11 Baumschlager took 2,2 and now leading with 0,9 sec.
Mayr in the mix,sometimes faster from both at his first drive with ds3 wrc!
What a thriller!
Baumschlager leads with 2.8 seconds over Neubauer, 2 stages to go.
If both will drive the same time than in first pass, Baumschlager would win with an margin of 0.2 seconds.
Neubauer wins PS, retakes lead by 0.8s, one stage to go!
Incredible! Just a 4 Km stage to go, wish I could see it live :DQuote:
Originally Posted by TWRC
Baumschlager took 6,2 sec from Neubauer and finally won.
Mundl won!!!
Yes!!!!!!
Congratulation to the old man
Congratulations to Baumschlager! 14th Austrian title!
Broken driveshaft for Hermann in the very last stage... What a shame...
Little trivia: according to my calculations, with this title Baumschlager equals Mats Jonsson at the second place for most national championships won, with 14. First place is the late Attila Ferjancz with 16 Hungarian championships.
Maybe have longer list, and ready to share?Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
Ready to share, no. But I have a list of national champions of various countries, I just have to manually count :D I can share that list, if anyone is interested (not 100% correct, very probably)Quote:
Originally Posted by electroliquid
I can tell:
Attila Ferjancz 16
Raimund Baumschlager, Mats Jonsson 14
Roger Feghali 13
Franz Wittmann, John Buffum, Sarel Van der Merwe 11
search for Greece too,Kirkos Leonidas have a lot too.
I count 5 for Kyrkos (1994, 1996, 1998, 2006, 2007). Giorgos Moschous has 8, most titles in Greece.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
The final moment...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2KCxkoS8pWo
Congrats Mundl!
Most of his gazillion titles are hillclimb. His National Rally Titles are 5!Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Gallery from Rallye Waldviertel: http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_best...rtel_2017.html
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2017/w4/1.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2017/w4/2.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2017/w4/4.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2017/w4/3.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2017/w4/5.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2017/w4/82.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adler
Is this Fabian Kreim from 0:41 onwards?
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by WUff1
Which leads to the following question... Why, when I said that Baumschlager was going to defeat Neubauer, were there some forum members here who said that I was "silly", what I said was "funny", I didn't know "what I was talking about" and that I should be disqualified?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiat-131-Abarth
Wasn't I right, Ucci? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ucci
Daniel, is my diqualification over? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by WRC1
Jarek,
you said Neubauer lacks talent. For me without talent it´s impossible to challenge a 14 time champion in an fully works supported latest spec Polo, with an 5 year old Fiesta, until the very last stage of the season (where a driveshaft brake). Please note also that it was the second technical issue for Neubauer (in Schneebergland he had engine failure, 0 Points), Baumschlager had not a single technical Problem.
At the end the best Team won, but just saying...
Video from Rallye Waldviertel: https://vimeo.com/242471100
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2017/w4/13.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adler
Baumschlager had also technical problems this season, in Rallye Weiz he had no rear brakes for the last two stages.
Also without Neubauers problem on last stage I am quite sure Baumschlager would have won (with a smaller margin), as he was very dominant on all stages during the rally on this final section.
Adler, I respect your opinion, but come on... how difficult is it to defeat a 60-year old Baumschlager? And let's not forget that Mundl wasn't drivng VW Polo WRC in all rounds...Quote:
Originally Posted by Adler
true, but Bamschlager was over 20 seconds behind when that happened on penultimate stage, so it didn´t affect the championship like Neubauers engine failure.Quote:
Originally Posted by tc10a
About the driveshaft Problem in Waldviertel you might be right, even Neubauer admitted that it wouldn´t have been enough most likely without this issue...of course he was a bit pissed because he lost the championship on this rallycrosstrack, where they had to drive 6 times in total...
well, it´s hard enough for all the others, still we talk about national championship, i know austrian championship is not the strongest and Neubauer for sure is not a world class driver, but for me he made good rogress in the last 2 seasons and is the fastest driver in Austria at the moment. Edit: besides Andreas Aigner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
I have deep respect for Baumschlagers efforts though.
Jarek, Mundl won the championship. True. Congratulations.
But, for me the real hero is still Neubauer. Neubauer was competing with ''museum'' technology against last year's world champion car!!
And Mundl did not convincingly won the championship, but barely.....
At the end I was also pleasantly surprised over Mayer-Melnhof pace, as he was on few ocasions even faster than Mundl or Neubauer......he is showing progress.
That's true, but Mundl himself isn't "latest spec" driver, Neubauer is good, but Mundl is something extraordinary, by having very good pace at his age, and also still have desire to compete.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ucci
NO Jarek! your comment was disrespectfull, if you rate Hermann Neubauer as an untalented driver, especially after this season than you are still diqualified with this opinion...nothing changed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
I don't think this is disrespectful. If someone lacks talent this doesn't mean that he is untalented...Quote:
Originally Posted by WRC1
It exactly means that, while Neubauer obviously IS talented, and this year ALMOST did impossible, and was so close to living legend; maybe he isn't World class driver, but c'mon - only own WRC car isn't enough to drive fast, it need talent, and Neubauer was fast all season long.Quote:
Originally Posted by JUF
I have to disagree here. Just an example: When you say Dani Sordo lacks talent compared to Sébastien Ogier that doesn't mean that Sordo is untalented. He is just not as talented as Ogier. Is that really disrespectful? I don't think so...Quote:
Originally Posted by electroliquid
You have the point, it's more about wordplay in this case, so maybe there is native English speaking guys, who could sort this out?Quote:
Originally Posted by JUF
You´re right. I´m no native speaker, but the question which occurs here is if "lack" means "missing" (this would mean no talent at all) or just "less than others" (the example of Ogier and Sordo).Quote:
Originally Posted by electroliquid
But back to topic: Hermann Neubauer is probably not the next World Champion, but the has achieved a lot against Mundl Baumschlager. That´s for sure.
The final stage of Rally Waldviertel 2017 onboard - Baumschlager / Winklhofer VW Polo R WRC - full throttle and lots of emotions at the end:
https://vimeo.com/242925623
http://www.ir7.at/vv.jpg
First news about Jänner Rallye 2018:
http://www.rallye-oem.at/sites/orm_j...8_fixiert.html
The time table will be quite the same like 2015. They skipped the super fast Pregarten stage and had to change the Liebenau stage for enviromental reasons.
The chief of the organisation Robert Zitta said, that he received already 8 entries although the regulations have not been published yet. There should been already entries from italian, czech and slovakian drivers.
The regulations of the Jänner Rallye have been published
http://www.jaennerrallye.at/fileadmi...allye_2018.pdf
Entries are closing on Dec 20th
Good that ceremonial start is back on city´s main square - like in the old days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiat-131-Abarth
First win for a N5 in Spain's tarmac at Rallye Comunidad de Madrid, the season last event. Gorka Antxustegi in the Suzuki Swift R+ (it’d be easier if they simply call it N5) built by ARVidal, dominated the rally since SS1, profiting from Ares initial problems and Garcia absence. Pelaez (Fiesta R5) came in second and Ares managed to recover from P10 to P3, by wining most of the stages. Fuster, on the N5 RMC Clio, was always a bit behind, finishing sixth.
This week is the final round of Indonesian Rally Championship & Indonesian Sprint Rally Championship, both of them will be held at Rambong Sialang, near Medan, North Sumatra (Same location as WRC Rally Indonesian in 1996-97)
4 stages will be held in the 7th round of Indonesian Sprint Rally C'ship, on December 2nd:
Attachment 1471
And on the next day, 6 stages for Indonesian Rally C'ship
Attachment 1472
Lukyanuk with swift N5 at rally Comarca
https://www.rallyes.net/alexey-lukyanuk-rallye-ulloa/