Better to have no rally at all? It's Covid times you know...Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
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Better to have no rally at all? It's Covid times you know...Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
But only one 20 km stage was cancelled because of COVID. Saturday is short because they take the long liaison to Monaco (and because Thursday has also plenty of stage kilometres)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
They had those stupid itinerarys before covid times. Streching into 5 days what could be done in 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
What's even the point of tomorrow? 3 stages, only 50 km's, starting at 5 in the morning to end before noon? Ridiculous.
Some really weird times getting assigned to those who started the stage and didn't finish at speed. Most notably Camilli's time is strange he was 4th Rally2 in first split and gets 2nd time at the end?Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
EDIT: It's time of first pass + 20, which is what Mikkelsen dropped.
To be in Monaco before 6PMQuote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Quite interesting how Camilli, Gryazin and Solberg got a uniqe time being red-flagged.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Moreover look at splits. For example Ciamin -> + 7 minutes on fifth split and + 1.34 in the finish.
Edit: From wrc.com WRC 3 review:
The day-ending Chalancon - Gumiane stage was red-flagged by event organisers following WRC driver Pierre Louis Loubet’s crash and all WRC3 crews were handed notional times.
The original itinerary was created also in Covid time. It was here already during previous edition. None of us knows what kind of problems they had to solve during the year, what kind of conditions all officials, sponsors, promoter, etc. had, but we can be sure that organizing 2021 edition was definitely harder than 2020 already from the beginning.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
It was cancelled. Notional times for all cars behind, they passed as liaison.
Apparently it wasn't too hard to pass, so stage could have maybe run..
But surely no 6-6 curfew in the summer when the original itinerary was created.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
They don’t follow the curfew. Impossible for the teams to stay in between these hours. They made it less late in the evening, but like today almost no cars in parc ferme at this time. And in the morning it’s even worst, service crews leave at 3 am or something.
But they can say to the media that the rally runs within the curfew, and that's what matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
I mostly watch the relive on wrc plus.
After ogier, tanak, evans, kalle, neuville, and maybe suninen i play the next stage.
I can’t pay attention to the paid drivers. 45 sec behind in a stage. Please make room for new talent.
The three hour breaks between loops could surely have been reduced and they wouldnt need these super-early starts ?
There's no corporate people at the SP so why still 3 hours ?
Maybe there are other issues we, as spectators, can't think of. For example, maybe the plane needs time to go back, land, refuel and take-off again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
It seems plan was that no rally car will be on stage between 6pm and 6am. Plus 50 cars will arrive to Monte Carlo on Saturday before 6pm.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
The rest of the activities are "invisible" for those not familiar with rally schedule.
if somebody didnt see this Tänak moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykklwi3KslY
It's not a three hour break.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
SS5 starts at 9.01. It takes about 15 minutes for the crews to complete it. Then there's a one hour liaison back to the service park. We're talking about 10.20 or something. Then there's a media zone and some regrouping for 30 minutes before entering service at 10:56. Service takes 40 minutes. Then you're already in a hurry to refuel and start SS6 at 12.17, which is preceded a 30-40 minute liaison.
Maybe you could take 30 minutes of media zone / regrouping activity away but I don't think it would be worth the effort.
Ogier spin on puncture at 4.30 in:
https://youtu.be/3g3dLqEhj6Y
Front left totally gone off the rim.. 10kg weight save :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
stage guide for tomorrow https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/monte...y-stage-guide/
“We were more competitive in the latter part of last season and currently we are dominated and that’s not what we want when we come to rallies. Tonight I'm going to try to sort out everyone's ideas. »Says ADAMO
This isn't just a Hyundai phenomenon.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
He was the slowest polo by far for years until vw decided to pull out and he needed to find a new employer.
Suddenly he woke up and started setting some decent pace, even winning his first rally.
Something struck me now (I have been busy at work and I'm watching the stages a bit behind you guys).
Does Neuvilles new co-driver read the notes in French or in flemmish? From what I remember, Neuville speak French, flemmish and German.
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
If needed, he reads the notes in Neuvillesh.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
-3 to -4 degrees forecast tonight. All that rain in the area today will freeze on the roads, plus light snow on top. Should be exciting.
Meaning?Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
A mix of flemmish French and German?
Nicolas read them in French only.
Neuville is native German speaking. Learned French when started rallying for the Belgian national team. Gilsoul is French speaking. Wydaeghe is Dutch speaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
The notes are 100% french
BS, Mikkelsen was clearly faster than Latvala in 2016.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
He won first rally in 2015, second in June 2016 and had contract until end of 2017.
VW announced they will pull out at end of October 2016, so 12 months after he won first rally and 4 months after he won second.
=> Basically nothing that you wrote is true.
Not to mention his 2nd place in C3 beating both teammates as well as Ogier.
From what I remember he was gifted the first win due to something.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
I disagree that he was faster than Latvala. Latvala had a multitude of wins in the vw. Mikkelsen was consistently the slowest of the vw and often the only vw that the other teams managed to beat.
I shall get my popcorn now.
This is gonna be interesting
-First win was 2015 ,,thanks,, to Ogier's PS crash..
-Second win was ,,thanks,, to Tänak's Dmack puncrure
-Third win was first ,,proper,, win..
You were wrong, either on purpose or you didn't remember, now you trying to go around it. Mikkelsen was indeed "gifted" first win by Ogier crashing. Similarly Mikkelsen "gifted" Ogier win in Sweden 2015 just 9 months before by going in the snowbank on last stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
In 2016 he was clearly faster than Latvala.
Note that first full season in WRC was in VW in 2014 (and part of 2013) at that point Latvala was on his 7th and 8th WRC season, Ogier on 5th and 6th and two times world champion.
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The drivers and the team did an excellent job today! This was my first proper day at the office and I really enjoyed it
I feel more nervous to follow the race compared to the time I was driving myself! That’s a new thing!
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6 hours to return to monaco?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Tomorrow will be a very short day unfortunately, with the bulk of the stages already through. Sunday will have one additional stage (4) but even less mileage than tomorrow.
I miss the longer rallies that we had, even just a couple years ago!
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It seems weird that the bulk of the stages are on Friday, when many people have work, and they shorten Saturday when those people have a day off to watch.
There must be a reason for this. Can anyone explain?