The more you feed the troll, the more it grows. Anyone wasting time with this guy is getting old.Quote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
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The more you feed the troll, the more it grows. Anyone wasting time with this guy is getting old.Quote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
yes for sure...i think its a matter of economy they don't exceed the 400 kms mark..more marshals, ambulances ects for the organisers but also for the teams, more fuel, maintenance and other things.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
Congrats to J-M and Ford, before the rally i was thinking it this time would be a fight between Loeb and Ogier, but better this way.
Skoda also did a good rally all in all.
Well done J-M, even with lot of pressure....
You realized your dream of winning Rally Finland !!!!
Oh - yes, absolutely. Hats off to Ogier. Even though he didn't win his drive was simply amazing.
and of course justified fully the choice of the citroen management.
You just say these things to start a discussion? The car is 97% equal to factory cars... Its a long rally.. few sec. there... He cant change every part as often.. (suspension) And he can't risk the car... and he cant tune the car if needed..Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Offcourse, after all they know best their own guys, and what they are capable to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
sounds fair enough....but don't ask the new manufacturers entering to chose him or for him to expect something better in his career than the current situation, If his fans are happy with that its ok by me then.Quote:
Originally Posted by JFL
on the other facts of the rally, real pity that ketomaa didn't manage to get a win here since he was faster than anyone else by far, still we need to have a clear indication of his tarmac skills because it plays a big role in someones career and you can easily become a rovanpera rather than a gronholm. Also the fact that hanninen was close shows that the IRC guys may have a chance against the WRC guys, but thats just speculation until we see them competing with the best.
Agree, and now Loeb can start to prepair him self to end the carreer, like he said a few days back.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
yes maybe 1-2 years more and he can pull the curtains to the most successful rallying career through the ages.
Amazing and also emotional victory for young JML-this was one of his dreams already from childhood years!!
On the other side: tremendus, almost horrible progress from Ogier, his second appearance on Finish gravel and already missing the victory for lousy ten seconds !! If we look back in history, nobody made souch a progress in this rally, even the mighty Mr.Perfect-Seb Loeb!!!
So, JML&Ford fans, enjoy this victory, because in three weeks in Germany first Ford will not miss the win behind first C4WRC for yust 10 seconds...I bet we will see two, three minutes.....And this is tragedy!!!http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...cons/icon8.gif
Not to forget my favorite driver back 20-25 years: Kankkunen did a fine job, he has still the speed and I looking forward to see him in October at Rally Legend in San Marino....
Solid performance by Kimi, yust this silly off-road this morning....But his rallys are approaching, I expect much from him on tarmac...let wait and see!!
Hanninen: excellent result before the IRC goes to the final stage (good for his confidence).
Again a nice rally & good show!!
See you in Germany :up:
anyone have pictures with Miikka Salonen's Impreza 555 Number 95?
No point to worry about him, he will find work for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Just arrived home from this year's rally. And what a rally it was! Many many great fights, lot's of action and nice conditions plus awesome atmosphere. AND WHO'S THE WINNER?!?! IT'S JML! :crazy: :bounce:
You can't even imagine how fired up I was in Himos area forests during the second pass of the stage... Radio connection was cracking and shizziling in our place and then Petter came with incredibly wide line to our place and nearly tossed it. The tension rose to nearly unbearable levels until when I finally heard that JM had really won, I experienced a very special feeling.
Hey guys, what did I say back in 26th day?
;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
I also scored max points in our rally group's podium betting. I had gues... known the podium guys totally correctly. Everything went very smoothly this year and the atmosphere was great. Some pictures from the weekend coming later on. Right now I'm a really, really happy man. :)
I'm impressed with Kankkunen and actually beating Kimi too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ucci
its easy to find a job in developed european rally countries, there are far less talented guys with rally jobs....to make a career out of it is the hard part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Yes, but now here was the main competitors for the coming seats present, he did not have so big problems with them, and also he has tested already with many teams, main thing is that the teams knows what he goes for, if they dont think he is good enough, then it is so, and they dont sign.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Well, not that much faster than Hänninen really, we really failed to see the real battle between them because of the problems of Ketomaa.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Also note the speed of Nikara, big technical problems on friday, but today good speed in a bit outdated Peugeot 207, some really impressive times today
Interesting fact that JML's car was the same car that he rolled in Portugal 2009...
Did anyone hear what happened to Mikko?
From the video it's clear something was broken already when he went off the jump. Wheels are totally misaligned..
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/3...0731222500.png
Wheels aren't "obviously" misaligned IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
The right is pointing directly at the camera.. Compare to any other picture of a jumping car.. It doesn't look like this. Onboard also shows the steering being kicked out of his hands on landing. This wouldn't happen unless something was broken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/1...0731224119.png
Meh, it's a blurQuote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
duh... if u don't wanna use either your eyes or brain cells.. then believe what you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
btw, Jarmo also said steering locked on landing.. he's probably also in a blur..
Seriously, you are wasted on here :) You should be on a JFK forum proving that the grassy knoll did it :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
Being serious though, ackermann and toe in can account for any supposed difference in the direction that wheels may be facing.
Nice way to lose a discussion.. Oh mama... i'm crying..Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
yea.. i'm sure he runs a toe in of 10 deg.. sigh..
There is no discussion luv, your blurry picture does not obviously show anything conclusive......Quote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
bretdog the focus suspension is always like that through jumps, its normal...here is a pic.
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9...ture150.th.jpg
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yea NOT.. I'm not talking about the vertical angles, but the horizontal. When one wheel is clearly much more narrow than the other they do point in different direction. You can even calculate the angle quite easily from the picture, but I don't bother. It's clear enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
ah..yeah...you have a point in that one. Did the team say that something broke ? from the onboard footage it doesn't look like hirvonen hit something before the jump...there was a small jump before the one that the accident occured but the landing seemed fine.
All I heard was Jarmo said steering locked on landing.. Nothing from the team. But they may not have analyzed anything yet.
Yea, can't see anything special either.. could be a weak part.
Mikko's accident happened just few hundred meters after Urria's famous big jump. It's possible that something went broken already there.
From incar footage it looks clear that something was wrong. Landing was straight on the road, but when the car touched the ground, front of the car turned suddenly to the left.
Like I said, the front suspension will have some toe in, couple that with a bit of ackermann and voila, wheels pointing in a different direction and for very good reason if you understand ackermann.Quote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
The left is pointing straight forward. In that position ackermann makes absolutely no difference to the right wheel. ..Unless the links are broken of course.. in which case it may make a huge difference :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I cannot believe anyone can say that..........Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Bet you would be happy with 1 day!!!!
Bring back the proper 5 day events that proper rally fans want!!!!!
A nice video from the last S.S.19 with Jari, KKK,Hanninen and many celebrations for Jari
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPttRNG_XgQ&feature=player_embedded
2 day format was good. Fighting on day 1, more fighting on day 2 right down to the wire and no silly procession over a few stages on Sunday morning.