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Ha! Ha! very good my man!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
When I was a much younger mantovano volante, in jr highschool (7th-9th) the end of dances was always preceeded by that song.
Posturing to get that last (slow) dance with Cindy Sostri was an art-form :cool: :p
If Wimbledon can have a tennis match last 11 freaking hours, I think there is a way for Football/soccer to not end a match on penalties. IN North America, the NHL playoffs are not ended with penalty shots, they go to sudden death overtime, and if it is 4 periods long..oh well. Baseball never ends with anything but a win, no matter how many innings it takes. NFL football so rarely has ties, that the conversation is almost moot, but my point is in a money hungry and pro sports enviroment such as what exists in North America, the shootout method of ending playoff or championship matches doesn't exist...
FIFA is in the dark ages on this. I vote they keep playing, and it would factor into the strategies of nations to have extra players fresh and ready to go in. Allow more bench players. Allow for more libreal subsitutions...but keep the games going...I bet teams will not play for ties if they know they have to keep going....
Prediction for tonight...3-1 to Netherlands :p :
Mark a football field is much larger than a Hockey Rink. The players also can't "Skate"-coast. You don't want guys cramping up, or having cardiac arrest, because there are no players left to substitute. How many players on a team is enough? 30, 50, 100? You get to the point that you no longer are putting a representative team on the field, to say nothing about bringing players that they don't plan on using until the 12th overtime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
As I stated that before TV had such a large impact on the game they would simply play a few overtimes, and come back after a day (or two) of rest and play again. Rollo pointed out that there have been some extreme examples that suggest it's not really practical "for the TV industry". I say to hell with the TV, considerations but I'm a dinosaur. There is one other flaw that your solution would provide. Teams that were much deeper in personnel would simply guard their goal until their opponents died of exhaustion heart attack or heat prostration. In summary.....The way things are.... sucks dude! :arrowed: :burn: ;( :s ailor:
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oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooal de Urrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrruguay
just getting warmed up :D
[quote="Tazio"]Mark a football field is much larger than a Hockey Rink. The players also can't "Skate"-coast. You don't want guys cramping up, or having cardiac arrest, because there are no players left to substitute. How many players on a team is enough? 30, 50, 100? You get to the point that you no longer are putting a representative team on the field, to say nothing about bringing players that they don't plan on using until the 12th overtime.
As I stated that before TV had such a large impact on the game they would simply play a few overtimes, and come back after a day (or two) of rest and play again. Rollo pointed out that there have been some extreme examples that suggest it's not really practical "for the TV industry". I say to hell with the TV, considerations but I'm a dinosaur. There is one other flaw that your solution would provide. Teams that were much deeper in personnel would simply guard their goal until their opponents died of exhaustion heart attack or heat prostration. In summary.....The way things are.... sucks dude! :arrowed: :burn: ;( :s ailor:[/QUOTE
It aint hockey, you have that right, in hockey guys dont' go down like they are shot at every opportunity to draw penalties...
Seriously though, I hear what you are saying, and I have heard it before, but teams would play FAR more aggressive if they knew they had to get it done. How many nations have teams that are better in penalties than they are on 11 on 11 play?
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Originally Posted by Tazio
It aint hockey, you have that right, in hockey guys dont' go down like they are shot at every opportunity to draw penalties..In hockey, people are pounding the crap out of each other, and there is no coasting on most shifts. Players go flat out for 30 seconds to a minute, get off and then come back on 1 to 2 minutes later often. They will do this all night if they have to and they will do it in a sport where people are trying to take their heads off. Sorry, I get the running part of it, but I see lots of jogging and standing in a 90 minute World Cup match...
Seriously though, I hear what you are saying, and I have heard it before, but teams would play FAR more aggressive if they knew they had to get it done. How many nations have teams that are better in penalties than they are on 11 on 11 play? Furthermore, most nations carry about 15 or 18 on a roster, substitute a few guys. Hell Marathoners run for 2. 5 hours, ...Footballers do it for 90 minutes, and half of that is not always at top speed, or is spent standing around for the obligatory acting as someone has gone down like he was shot when someone brushes his leg.
There is a lot to love about "football" but the watching a team win on penalties isn't one of them.
What a rocket!!!!! wow!!! impresive!! :eek:
The Dutch are not going away quietly are they?
A very good post, much truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
Sudden sprinting and sudden stopping is more strenuous than running long distance both aerobically and kinetically! The diving? :confused: is just plain weird :p :
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Originally Posted by Tazio
Coming back to the discussion some had here, penalties IMO are a great addition to a football match. I wouldn't mind if they had a penalty shootout immediately after 90 mins without any extra-time. I prefer the excitement of penalties over an endless match. :)
What if the score was 5-5 after 90 minutes? :dozey: Jens? :s mokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
German Pulpo picks Spain!! :eek: :s ailor:
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Bravo Uruguay!!!!
Bravo Forlan!!!
Holland would have had their hands fuller if Suarez had been playing.
That was a fun game and I'm also happy for the Orange team and its fans but they better up the ante if they wish to measure up with the Germans or Spain.
:s mokin:
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Originally Posted by Tazio
let it go, man. Just let it go. :p
In the immortal words of Rambo, John, J:Quote:
Originally Posted by veeten
”Nothing is over :fasttalk: until I say it is” :monster:
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Originally Posted by pino
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Well we find out this evening. I may not be about for a few days to issue/take a punishment as going to France in the early hours tomorrow so might be getting an early night :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Donney
I home Paul the octopus is right and Spain wins :)
Otherwise....
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:D :D :D
Stupid Pulpo...Go Germany :p :
Either way the Pulpo is table fare! :burp: :p
What a boring match so far :s nore:
Goooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllll ll
about freakin' time :p :
Viva la Pulpo :bandit: :s mokin:
Thou shall respect the octopus http://www.alfisti.gr/forum/images/smilies/contract.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by pino
:p :
hey, Pedro-Pass.
That's P-A-S-S. ya know, when you give the ball to a fellow team member using your feet?
anyway, thank goodness spain won. germany winning the world cup would be horrible for me :D
For the very first time I must say...well deserved Spain :up:
First, we have a happy Donkey, and that is a good thing.
Viva España!!!
:D
On the other hand, I do have a depressed teenager that was all decked in German gear and is now not feeling too good.
:(
But my wife and I had to control our emotions when Spain won because we didn't want to rub it in.
Netherlands is going down!!!!!!!
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Like a cheap trick :s hock: :kiss: :love:Quote:
Originally Posted by race aficionado
Espana have never really looked like they've meant business in this World Cup. Even against Germany they appear to be only doing just enough. If this is a strategic thing then it's an insanely good one. Hold something back just in case you need it.
They could have easily doubled their advantage had Pedro not been such a greedy *******, because Torres would have had a very very easy tap-in.
So then, we move onto a final where whoever wins it, will win the World Cup for their first time. I only hope that both sides play to win and we don't get some dour stalemate.
Our poll shows 2 votes for Netherlands and 9 votes for Spain.
I can't take credit for any of those now that Messi could not take his Barcelona team mates with him.
España is going to win it and our forum will be full of geniuses. (well, 9 at least)
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While I honestly preferred Germany, my gut predicted otherwise; it'll be Spain. And so it be.
As Rollo said, it's hard to see if Spain is playing on it's full potential. In no case did they gave Germany a chance of actually playing football or scoring a goal, but likewise they didn't really do the latter either (until a sudden corner goal). They combine so easily and that's what frightens me. Excluding Villa, they lack goalgetters (Torres obviously not in his form), but they can be very quick in there passes to the point that you don't really need them.
On the other hand, I don't believe The Netherlands has played on their 100 percent either. Even for a Dutchman, it's easy to complain about our games being too formal and that we lack the attractive football we showed in previous tournaments, but bar one 1988 exception, that never brought us anything. Maybe this is the comprimise we need to finally win a world title. Amsterdam will sink if that happens.
It's 50-50 in my book.
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Originally Posted by pino
pretty footy wins :bananas:
I'm in Spain at the moment - pulpo rulez ! :D
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Jd79LNlWOE...s400/giles.jpg
Ashley Giles will of course be very happy that his kingdom has made it through to the World Cup Final. He is after all, "The King of Spain"
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This was sweet :D
MundoDeportivo will let us know it was another Made in Barca goal too ;)
Xavi foot to Puyol head - you beauty!
I guess I was right about Spain after all MarkinOshawa
The octopus is the winner.
Funny about the Octopus - it has been picking the winner each time Germany played. I wonder if it will be able to pick the winner of the Final.
http://g.au.sports.yahoo.com/footbal...5fdd754e4.html
Im very glad to see the 2 usual dissapointments of the world cup (alongside england) reach the final. whoever wins I will be very happy for, the dutch have deserved to win before, and the spanish arguably have had the teams to do a lot better over the years.
I just hope spain step up a notch for the final, there is certainly something more to give from them, and if they gave that I can imagine a great final.
plus, if spain win, I will be one of the 9 forum geniouses :D