I prefer sound of atmospheric engines...Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
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I prefer sound of atmospheric engines...Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
Timo van der Marel will drive an Adam R2 in the Dutch championship with some support of the importer. :)
Again I must say that the Opel Adam R2 is impressing me.
Sneeking into the R2 class via collecting knowledge with the cup car, and now it is on par with the best R2 cars.
Looking promising for a R5 if that is what Opel Motorsport is planning next!
The Adam has excellent suspensions I was very impressed with it even on our bumpy and rough stages!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwnBBycouaw Short clip of Fiesta Ecoboost R2.
Bergkvist onboardQuote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=811&v=W6hCa81Zl9w
He is good
I too was wondering if they were looking to make an R5. That would be great news if so. I wonder if we will see heavy branding again at Rally Germany this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
This is also a good one on Emil driving a RWD Volvo 940 on gravel. Just look at the flow!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCUEmk07kmg
Normally everyone keeps the HP of rallycars all secret but check this dyno plot out
https://www.facebook.com/35863616082...type=1&theater
It's an Mitsubishi Evo 8 rally car on a 34mm restrictor.
Has anyone got a dyno plot of the R5 cars yet? Care to share?
This is a Volvo 240 =)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
But he is a impressing driver, this is a onboard with a crazy pace with VOC 940 ( Volvo std-class)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsH5WVb1lEI starts 1,52 in
Ta mig i häckan de va bättre än 99% av all i Nord Amerika att åka bil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micke_VOC
Och i en VOC bil!
Damn forum software only let me "like" one time.
PS showed that clip to a young soon to be rally guy and he was jumping up and down---re recognize the intrumentbredan as 940 but refused to belive it was VOC bil...
he was "No way! Its too fast! too sideways!"
Is it time for a modern Volvo rally car, if they make rally cars that sound like this?
https://youtu.be/U2SyL5TFlv4
For your knowledge Swedish Touring car championship is driven with siloutte cars and common V6 engines. Only outer bodyshell is a casting of ordinary S60 model or other brands...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeakiwi
Sorry to maybe take away some Volvo-spirit...
Why when even the 240 does so well? Do you know the name Jaska Nuorala? Finnish F-Cup Champion 2 years running...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeakiwi
It is a safe bet that F-cup is the best 2wd class in the world, better than Swedish Grupp H...2 years in a row he beats everybody..
Compare SS times and it is shocking what his overall times are..
Plug his name into a Youtube search sit back and relax
The car may be old----but it is good and a good car that is easy to drive---and costing a fraction of what modern cars cost is a good thing.
Any plans to make R2 or R3 from the new Fabia, or either factory or CZ tuners?
So, we have had the R-Classes around for a few years.
Status seems to be the following.
R1: Not a big success, need overhaul
R2: Success. Has been healthy series in many national, regional and at world champ levels. Have had engine mod from 1600 NA to 1200 Turbo.
R3: Is a dying class. Need overhaul.
R4: First real R4 car kit coming in 2018.
R5: Huge success, 600 cars sold.
So basically we have R2 and R5 that have made it. R3 was a success, but has died out in most series.
I would like R1 to get a revamp, as a class for 15 year old youngsters, and others driving for fun, and want a modern car.
There could be R5 in the top WRC class, R4 in wrc2 r3 in wrc3 r2 jwrc.. Dream but look a differently way more cheaper..Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Come on. All top WRC class will be expensive. If R5 at top, R5 would cost more twice than now
Not a chance, unless the R5 is driven on the limit and you find a good spot it's not that great.Quote:
Originally Posted by ESTR
R2T is 1L Sulland
@SubNo: you are correct, or close. (1067)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_R
R2B 1390cc to 1600cc Naturally aspirated Petrol 1030 kg Two-wheel drive 2500 per year Ford Fiesta 1.6 R2[9] 927cc to 1067cc Turbocharged Ford Fiesta Ecoboost R2 R2C 1600cc to 2000cc Naturally aspirated Petrol 1080 kg Two-wheel drive 2500 per year none 1067cc to 1333cc Turbocharged none RC5 R1A Up to 1390cc Naturally aspirated Petrol 980 kg Two-wheel drive 2500 per year Toyota TMG Yaris R1A[2] Up to 927cc Turbocharged none R1B 1390cc to 1600cc Naturally aspirated Petrol 1030 kg Two-wheel drive 2500 per year Renault Twingo RS R1 927cc to 1067cc Turbocharged none
And it is also opened for similar engine in R1. So we could potentially see a R1 Fiesta with detuned R2 engine.
Wikipedia has it bit wrong:
R2 no turbo is up to 1620cc (some french? engine is little bit over 1600cc)
Only turbocharged variants of PSA EP6 are over 1600 ccm and therefore I believe this 1620cc rule applies only for R3T and R5.
Yeah my bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
It was Renault M5MT engine 1618cc (Clio R3T)
They are 999cc, I'm a mechanic on them so i should know ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Får jag fråga lite on dom där Fiestor?
fjädersväg fram o bak? Märke på fjäderben?
Är upphängning o länk osv orginal grejor o fjäder instoppat mellan bärarm o ramen_ Eller had bilen torn svetsat in?
Are there any initiatives from FIA towards the factories to modify the R1 class, maybe with turbo engines?
Or will all continue with NA engines?
Are there any public figures (or even guesses) available how many R class cars has been sold per class per each model, for example in R2 and R5? In R5 it feels like 90% cars are either Skodas or Fords but there seems to be big differences in models' popularity between different national series.
The R1 teams are having a ball in Monte Carlo.
https://www.ewrc-results.com/results...154135&ct=1035
A cheap car to learn in, even in world rally championship rallies!
For R5, take a look at ewrc-results, it is very good. As for R2, over 300 208 R2 kits have been sold, others I dont't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Japé
I think C2R2 must be around the same numbers, huge amounts of these was sold.
Rough number of R5s from ewrc listing:
Fiesta ~260
Fabia ~220
DS3 ~75
208 T16 ~60
i20 ~20
Does this meant that only M-Sport and Skoda takes R5 business / development seriously enough?
Wait for Polo. The car is not even complete and they have 15 orders already. And remember there are 2015 where they build that machines except i20 who was built year later.
Afaik they are the only ones who make profit of R5.Quote:
Originally Posted by Japé
They have way more than 15 orders...Quote:
Originally Posted by ESTR
They can produce/deliver 15 cars this year (2018)
Thata;s fine but are they going to continue developing it in the next couple of years or so and continue sharing updates with their customers?
Btw does anyone know why R5 models i20 and Polo are made from 4 door models instead of 2 door models, unlike their WRC counterparts. For sure both are rigid enough, but at least I've always felt that 4 door models doesn't bring the rallycar / racecar feeling
Because there isn`t a new Polo roadcar with 2 doors available from the factory, only 4 doors and they aren`t planning one. Polo WRC with 2 doors was the previous generation chassis. Same case was with the i20, at that time (homologation) it was only possible to use the 4 door version, 2 doors arrived later.
Same with Citroen C3 and Skoda Fabia (only 5-door road car available)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarmop
Are you sure that enough two doors are produced over a short enough time for it to be classified (homologated).