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18th May 2010, 09:39
SGWilko

I know.

Only my wife is allowed to call me that.......

:rotflmao:
18th May 2010, 09:48
Big Ben

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Are you suggesting that the Tifosi are...... well....... shallow fair weather supporters?

No. I suggest one is. But then again the truth is by his definition he was never a tifosi... it makes you wonder what was all this thread about after all... the one who started it said this is for fans only but not much of a fan he was either... this thread is ilogical.... just like the emotions some drivers seem to arouse in some people around here. as merv said: it's remarkable how similar is the pattern of love with the pattern insanity.
18th May 2010, 09:51
Big Ben

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Originally Posted by tamburello

Why are there non-tifosi posting on a thread specifically for Ferrari fans?

Oh, of course, it is because they are trolling scum.

Why was it started by non-tifosi? So many questions so little answers... and now he's banned... we will never know the truth...
18th May 2010, 10:36
SGWilko

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

Italian cars are never bulletproof. Beautiful and fast, but certainly not bulletproof :D .

At least carbon fibre does not rust, otherwise the Ferraris would finish every race like a Flintstones runaround... :laugh:

NB - I am basing my rusty Italian motor car stereotype on Alfas!
19th May 2010, 04:39
Tazio

Quote:

Originally Posted by tamburello

Why are there non-tifosi posting on a thread specifically for Ferrari fans?

Oh, of course, it is because they are trolling scum.

OK quoting a true brother that has just been banned

This ones for you Tamb'

I thought I would revisit the first page of this thread. It was a very good time to kick "The Scuds" when we were down.
Max's recreation had already lost it's novelty.

I went on vacation for a while. On another forum A "so called" Tifosi intimated that he has a hard time, and maybe never would embrace Fred being with the team. I told him how much I had hated him, and if I had been in Suzuka in 2005 and watched first hand the way Fred waved at Mike as he drove by the Ferrari that had expired with a few laps left in the race, virtually sealing his first WDC. How I would have taken a high powered rifle (with scope) and blown that S.O.B's brains out.

I said give Fred some time you'll warm up to him!

A few quotes from page one:

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Originally Posted by Ioan

This thread's point isn't to be a "love fest", it's all about having a thread where Ferrari fans can interact, where they can express their good or bad feeling about the team they support, without having to put up with all the trash from other forum members.

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Originally Posted by Taz

With deepest regrets to Ioan I suggest that this is a useless excercise!

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Originally Posted by Wilko

I am a fan of Stefano. Very amenable, and not, IMO, the slightest up himself like some previous inhabitants of that job

Quote:

Originally Posted by tamburello

Why are there non-tifosi posting on a thread specifically for Ferrari fans?

Oh, of course, it is because they are trolling scum.

Not all of them!
19th May 2010, 06:03
Tazio

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Originally Posted by Tazio

Suzuka in 2005 and watched first hand the way Fred waved at Mike as he drove by the Ferrari that had expired with a few laps

:rolleyes:
Actually I was referring to Suzuka 2006 Fred's 2nd WDC :rolleyes:

[youtube]bzlJaVm32nk[/youtube]
19th May 2010, 10:05
SGWilko

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Originally Posted by Tazio

:rolleyes:
Actually I was referring to Suzuka 2006 Fred's 2nd WDC :rolleyes:

[youtube]bzlJaVm32nk[/youtube]

How nice of him to wave - he could have been really rude and ignored the Shoe altogether.
19th May 2010, 15:36
Tazio

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

How nice of him to wave - he could have been really rude and ignored the Shoe altogether.

:p
19th May 2010, 17:37
donKey jote

he didn´t wave... he was saluting the Red Baron after shooting him down :p
19th May 2010, 20:18
DexDexter

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Originally Posted by eu

No. I suggest one is. But then again the truth is by his definition he was never a tifosi... it makes you wonder what was all this thread about after all... the one who started it said this is for fans only but not much of a fan he was either... this thread is ilogical.... just like the emotions some drivers seem to arouse in some people around here. as merv said: it's remarkable how similar is the pattern of love with the pattern insanity.

How old are you guys? Five? Come on, it's just a car and this is a discussion forum. I'd think we have more interesting things to discuss than whether someone is true "Tifosi (LOL)" or what? :rolleyes:
21st May 2010, 12:06
Mia 01

At the time you kicked out Kimi, all his fans for ever kicked you out.

You are rather lonley thoose times aren´t you?
21st May 2010, 12:08
SGWilko

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Originally Posted by Mia 01

At the time you kicked out Kimi, all his fans for ever kicked you out.

You are rather lonley thoose times aren´t you?

Kimi signed for Ferrari - lured by wads of folding paper.

Apart from being gifted the WDC, what else did he do?

Ice cream taster?????
21st May 2010, 12:16
Mia 01

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGWilko

Kimi signed for Ferrari - lured by wads of folding paper.

Apart from being gifted the WDC, what else did he do?

Ice cream taster?????

The last WCC for Ferrari in a long time perhaps.
(2).

Every sane persón knows that Kimi is way way better than Alonso.
21st May 2010, 17:48
donKey jote

Well that would explain why you don´t seem to like Alonso very much...
he got Kimi booted :laugh:
Every sane person also knows that Kimi is way way better than Loeb :p
21st May 2010, 18:00
gloomyDAY

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Originally Posted by Mia 01

Every sane persón knows that Kimi is way way better than Alonso.

Ha! Get out of town.

I'm not sure what's more pathetic, the fact that you posted this filth or the fact that you actually believe it.
21st May 2010, 18:46
pino

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Originally Posted by Mia 01

Every sane persón knows that Kimi is way way better than Alonso.

Way way better...no, on same level...maybe ;)
21st May 2010, 19:57
Roamy

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Originally Posted by gloomyDAY

Ha! Get out of town.

I'm not sure what's more pathetic, the fact that you posted this filth or the fact that you actually believe it.

I think I am going with Gloomy on this one :)
23rd May 2010, 17:44
DexDexter

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Originally Posted by gloomyDAY

Ha! Get out of town.

I'm not sure what's more pathetic, the fact that you posted this filth or the fact that you actually believe it.

IMO they'd be pretty evenly matched but paying the amount of money they did to get Alonso in a year early wasn't worth it, you can tell it by now. Alonso's performances this year do not justify putting a WDC on a holiday with about 17 million bucks or whatever in his pocket...
23rd May 2010, 18:28
Tazio

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

IMO they'd be pretty evenly matched but paying the amount of money they did to get Alonso in a year early wasn't worth it, Alonso's performances this year do not justify putting

You are taking into consideration the $30million plus he brought along with him from Santander? Plus everything else Spanish, and Southern European that is on a list too long to mention!
23rd May 2010, 19:13
Saint Devote

Alonso is better than Kimi?

Then how come Alonso couldn't cut it at Mclaren and had Lewis [first season in f1] effectively kick his backside all the way back to Spain and into the uncompetitive Renault team? OLE!

Alonso is better than Kimi? - then lets see El Nano also win the world title in 2010 - HIS first year at Ferrari.

At very BEST, pushiing it, he is equal to Kimi Raikkonen.
23rd May 2010, 19:55
Mia 01

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

Alonso is better than Kimi?

Then how come Alonso couldn't cut it at Mclaren and had Lewis [first season in f1] effectively kick his backside all the way back to Spain and into the uncompetitive Renault team? OLE!

Alonso is better than Kimi? - then lets see El Nano also win the world title in 2010 - HIS first year at Ferrari.

At very BEST, pushiing it, he is equal to Kimi Raikkonen.

Agreed Saint, to say the least.

WCC, WDC and I belive it was seven wins for Kimi the first year.

Unlike Kimi, Alonso is a bit arrogant, playing the games.
I feel sorry for Massa this year.
23rd May 2010, 21:02
Big Ben

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint Devote

Alonso is better than Kimi?

Then how come Alonso couldn't cut it at Mclaren and had Lewis [first season in f1] effectively kick his backside all the way back to Spain and into the uncompetitive Renault team? OLE!

Alonso is better than Kimi? - then lets see El Nano also win the world title in 2010 - HIS first year at Ferrari.

At very BEST, pushiing it, he is equal to Kimi Raikkonen.

that´s why one´s paid not to drive a ferrari and the other one to drive it, right? you have such a deep understanding of the sport boy... it´s just mesmerizing- I have had always a great esteem for this particular kind of supporter who´s always the fan of whoever wins. maybe not esteem, perhaps envy. They can´t be disappointed. That would explain the silly enthusiasm, wouldn´t it?
23rd May 2010, 23:27
Hawkmoon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint Devote

Alonso is better than Kimi?

Then how come Alonso couldn't cut it at Mclaren and had Lewis [first season in f1] effectively kick his backside all the way back to Spain and into the uncompetitive Renault team? OLE!

Alonso is better than Kimi? - then lets see El Nano also win the world title in 2010 - HIS first year at Ferrari.

At very BEST, pushiing it, he is equal to Kimi Raikkonen.

Apples and oranges mate.

The 2007 Ferrari had competition from 1 other car, the McLaren. Kimi was in a four-way fight for the title.

This year the Ferrari is competing with McLaren sure enough - for second behind the Red Bull. Alonso is in a 6 way fight (8 if you include the Mercedes duo). If Alonso takes the title this year it will be a much greater achievement than what Raikkonen did.
24th May 2010, 09:39
ShiftingGears

I mean Schumacher couldn't win the championship with a Ferrari in his first 4 years with the team - let's all face it. He sucks.
24th May 2010, 10:40
Tazio

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

I mean Schumacher couldn't win the championship with a Ferrari in his first 4 years with the team - let's all face it. He sucks.

Even having arrived there with two more than Kimi had when he came over :dozey:
24th May 2010, 11:04
SGWilko

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazio

Even having arrived there with two more than Kimi had when he came over :dozey:

Well, the '94 title was won with TC allegedly, and no filters in the fueling rigs so the fuel flows quicker, oh, and by barging others out the way... :)

The '95 title was genuine though, which is nice. ;)
24th May 2010, 11:22
DexDexter

Everybody seems to want to dodge my question about the money thing. What do you think, would Ferrari be slower or quicker now if they'd hold on to Räikkönen for one more year and invested more money in car development instead of changing drivers?
24th May 2010, 12:08
donKey jote

.6 slower ;) :p :laugh:
it´s irrelevant though, they were already fed up with kimi so why keep him when they had the chance to sign Alonso :)
24th May 2010, 17:19
Tazio

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

Everybody seems to want to dodge my question about the money thing. What do you think, would Ferrari be slower or quicker now if they'd hold on to Räikkönen for one more year and invested more money in car development instead of changing drivers?

See post # 879
That is money they would not have if they waited a year for Fred.
It's collecting interest as we speak! :)
24th May 2010, 17:43
Rodster

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Originally Posted by Tazio

See post # 879
That is money they would not have if they waited a year for Fred.
It's collecting interest as we speak! :)

Is the rumour true that Santander payed for Kimi's sabbatical? If so, then putting Fred in the car a year early made perfect sense.
25th May 2010, 21:19
jens

Quote:

Originally Posted by DexDexter

Everybody seems to want to dodge my question about the money thing. What do you think, would Ferrari be slower or quicker now if they'd hold on to Räikkönen for one more year and invested more money in car development instead of changing drivers?

I don't think -/+ 10-15M or whatever $ as such changes a great deal for a team like Ferrari in the grand scheme of things in car development. It's still possibly less than a tenth of their whole annual budget. But for a smaller team, yes.
26th May 2010, 08:41
Big Ben

Quote:

Originally Posted by DexDexter

Everybody seems to want to dodge my question about the money thing. What do you think, would Ferrari be slower or quicker now if they'd hold on to Räikkönen for one more year and invested more money in car development instead of changing drivers?

No. As others have said, I don't think this money would have made much of a difference. I think it's proven that the budget of a team is not directly related to its performance. Just take a look at Toyota.
26th May 2010, 14:55
DexDexter

Quote:

Originally Posted by eu

No. As others have said, I don't think this money would have made much of a difference. I think it's proven that the budget of a team is not directly related to its performance. Just take a look at Toyota.

What about Honda/Brawn last year? Wasn't that the most expensive F1 car of all time and it certainly showed on the race track.
26th May 2010, 16:26
Big Ben

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

What about Honda/Brawn last year? Wasn't that the most expensive F1 car of all time and it certainly showed on the race track.

So I´ve heard but there were other circumstances like the new regulation. They were there because other teams thought the new rules were adopted to reduce downforce but Brawn and his buddies left enough room to make the rule change almost useless. Before that Honda, like Toyota, spent quite a lot of money and they were nowhere.
26th May 2010, 16:47
Tazio

Quote:

Originally Posted by eu

So I´ve heard but there were other circumstances like the new regulation. They were there because other teams thought the new rules were adopted to reduce downforce but Brawn and his buddies left enough room to make the rule change almost useless. Before that Honda, like Toyota, spent quite a lot of money and they were nowhere.

eu don’t waste your time!
This guy is anti-everything except Kimi, and /or Scandinavian
27th May 2010, 06:30
555-04Q2

Quote:

Originally Posted by DexDexter

What about Honda/Brawn last year? Wasn't that the most expensive F1 car of all time and it certainly showed on the race track.

2 words to explain last years result...ROSS BRAWN
27th May 2010, 07:59
Big Ben

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

2 words to explain last years result...ROSS BRAWN

How about this year? Aren't your 2 words still there?
27th May 2010, 08:01
DexDexter

Quote:

Originally Posted by eu

How about this year? Aren't your 2 words still there?

True. But they didn't have the same amount of resources (and money) to develop this year's car which kind of supports "my" theory...
27th May 2010, 08:56
Mia 01

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Originally Posted by eu

How about this year? Aren't your 2 words still there?

Adrian Newey?
27th May 2010, 10:05
Big Ben

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Originally Posted by Mia 01

Adrian Newey?

What about him?

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