Rally History (part III)

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21st October 2009, 20:07
M.Carlo

Tour de Corse 1961:
http://ns80.hosteur.com/$sitepreview...om/class61.htm
Tour de Corse -cca:
http://ns80.hosteur.com/$sitepreview...m/palmares.htm
22nd October 2009, 20:38
cal5658

Thanks M Carlo

Great website
If only all rallies had the same detail!
25th October 2009, 07:49
Giorgio

Great Britain 1970

Someone knows....

13-14 febbraio 1970 - ??° Rally Bristowe
Start: ??????
Finish: ??????

1. Chris Beynon - Lyn Andrews (Ford Escort TC Mk 1 1600)
2. Jim Bullough - Don Barrow (Ford Escort TC Mk 1 1600)
3. ??????? ?????? - ????? ????? (?????)

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21-22 febbraio 1970 - 13° Seven Dales Rally
Start: ??????
Finish: ??????

1. Bob Bean - Paul Stephens (Ford Escort TC 1600)
2. ??????? ?????? - ????? ????? (?????)
3. ??????? ?????? - ????? ????? (?????)

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13-14 marzo 1970 - ??° The Welsh Marches
Start: ??????
Finish: ??????

1. Jim Bullough - Don Barrow (Ford Escort TC Mk 1 1600)
2. ??????? ?????? - ????? ????? (?????)
3. ??????? ?????? - ????? ????? (?????)

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?? / ?? / 1970 - 15° Cambrian Rally
?? / ?? / 1970 - 3° Granite City Rally

Thank you in advance
Giorgio
25th October 2009, 17:10
FAL

To answer most of that, Giorgio, you need a copy of Peter Robinson's book:
http://www.donbarrow.co.uk/rally_books.html
(I drove over the road pictured on the front cover a couple of weeks ago!)

I'll check for you as soon as I get time.
25th October 2009, 18:32
FAL

Rallye Bristowe 1970
Start Taunton
Finish Paignton
3rd Rod Cooper/Ian Cooper Escort TC

Seven Dales Rally 1970
Start and Finish Selby Fork Motel (that is not at Selby, it is at a junction on the A1 road, near Pontefract/Knottingley/Castleford, and was also used as a Main Time Control on the RAC Rally, including 1970)
2nd Rod Cooper/Ian Cooper Escort TC
3rd Coulter/Gray Imp

Welsh Marches Rally 1970
Start Hereford
Finish Brecon
2nd George Hill/Keith Wood Fulvia
3rd Chris Beynon/Lyn Andrews Escort TC
25th October 2009, 19:41
cal5658

25 /4 / 1970 - 3° Granite City Rally
26th October 2009, 20:03
Giorgio

Very Thanks, FAL and cal5658 !

Best regards
Giorgio
31st October 2009, 14:30
Giorgio

Rallye Monte Carlo - 1977

Someone knows....

Henri Gréder (F) - F????? "Celigny" (?????? ??????) (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
Marketta Oksala (SF) - Yvonne D????? Pratt (EAK) (Renault Alpine A310 gr 4)
Franck Metiffiot (F) - "Oswaldo" (?????? ??????) (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
André Recordier (F) - C?????? Marchand (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
Klaus Fritzinger (D) - R?????? Heiderscheid (D) (Toyota Celica gr 4)
Roger Vallet (F) - C?????? Glassier (F) (Renault Alpine A110 1600 S gr 3)
Bernard Donguès (F) - "Thouluc" (?????? ??????) (Autobianchi A112 gr 1)
Claude Handjian (F) - M??????? Richtarch (F) (Simca Rallye 2 gr 1)
Michel Tirabassi (F) - C?????? Jacquemin (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
Michel Laborie (F) - F?????? Dufossé (F) (Simca Rallye 2 gr 1)
Serge Marquand (F) - J?????? Perrin (F) (Simca Rallye 2 gr 1)
P?????? Douste-Blazy (F) - P?????? Ourliac (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
Gilbert Rousset (F) - G??????? Hug (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
Patrick Beaudoin (F) - B?????? Hollender (F) (Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV gr 2)
P?????? Catherineau (F) - Pierre Gallo (F) (Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV gr 1)
François Lubert (F) - F?????? Dubler-Gestro (F) (Renault R5 LS gr 1)
Alexandre Ross (F) - A?????? Fourmachat (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
Giancarlo Ontano (I) - G?????? Fiorucci (Lancia Beta Coupé gr 4)
G?????? Magnaudeix (F) - P??????? Pinchinat (F) (Simca Rallye 2 gr 1)
Giuseppe Torchio (I) - V?????? Galvani (I) (Autobianchi A112 gr 1)
O????? K?????? Klemenz (D) - O????? F????? Schmitt (D) (Opel Commodore GSE gr 1)
Jorgen Bindner (DK) - H????? H?????? Simonsen (DK) (Volvo 142 gr 2)
H????? Christensen (DK) - Peer Glad (DK) (Honda Civic gr 1)
Lilian Polge (F) - J????? C?????? Michaudette (F) (Ford Escort RS 2000 gr 1)
Pierre Merle (F) - C?????? Saugue (F) (Autobianchi A112 gr 1)
Angelo Mola (I) - G?????? Cristiani (I) (Alfasud gr 2)
P?????? G??????? Vollaire (F) - Georges Ribes (F) (BMW 2002 Turbo gr 2)
François Rousseau (F) - C?????? Ajoux (F) (Simca Rallye 2 gr 1)
W?????? Autenrieth (D) - K????? H????? Bader (D) (Datsun BL 210 gr 2)
Luciano Comino (I) - L?????? Grivetti (I) (Alfasud gr 1)
Michael Heine (D) - "Heidi Hetzer" (?????? ??????) (D) (Alfasud TI gr 1)
Jean Clugnac (F) - "Chorus" (????? ?????) (F) (Opel Ascona gr 2)
Peter Feustel (D) - G????? D????? Ebel (D) (Opel Ascona gr 4)
Andrea Biamonti (I) - "Cori" (????? ?????) (I) (Lancia Fulvia HF 1600 gr 3)
"Meigo" (????? ?????) (E) - José Ruiz Thiery (E) (Volkswagen Golf LS gr 1)

Thank you
Giorgio
31st October 2009, 22:59
McTaff

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAL

71 Nutcracker:
Start Aberdare.
Final control was "Prynnes". Not entirely sure if this was the finish venue (Prynnes Country Club?).

71 Welsh
Start: Howells Garage, Newport Road, Cardiff (I was there too!).
Finish: Bindles Ballroom, The Knapp, Barry (near Cardiff) (although to be classified as a finisher you had to also start (but not finish!) the 10 lap races at Llandow Circuit, near Cowbridge).

Prynne's was a roadside fuel station and cafe. It's still there albeit a graveyard for old coaches.
10th November 2009, 17:11
wulliesdad

Pers Lindsay

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAL

The 1973 Scottish entry list shows "John Lindsay" as co-driver of Alistair Robertson's Saab. The 1972 list shows "Anderson Lindsay". So I suggest you go with "John". Initials as "J.A." sound vaguely familiar.
I thought he was "Jock"!

Iam going back quite a bit in my gray cell area but the person you are looking for co/drove for Alastair IN THE 60s AND 70s was Pers Lindsay from Windygates in Fife Scotland
16th November 2009, 17:34
rx-guru

On April 23 1978 a certain Italian by the name of Osvaldo Galatini took part in the European Rallycross Championship round at the 'Rallypista Santo Spirito' at Gropello-Cairoli near Pavia in Italy with a Lancia. As I guess that Osvaldo Galatini was a Rally driver does anyone know what model of Lancia he used for rallying in 1978?
16th November 2009, 23:08
noel157

Quote:

Originally Posted by rx-guru

On April 23 1978 a certain Italian by the name of Osvaldo Galatini took part in the European Rallycross Championship round at the 'Rallypista Santo Spirito' at Gropello-Cairoli near Pavia in Italy with a Lancia. As I guess that Osvaldo Galatini was a Rally driver does anyone know what model of Lancia he used for rallying in 1978?

On the 1978 Giro dei Monti Savonesi Galatini drove a Fulvia HF 1600.
16th November 2009, 23:30
rx-guru

Quote:

Originally Posted by noel157

On the 1978 Giro dei Monti Savonesi Galatini drove a Fulvia HF 1600.

Thanx!
26th November 2009, 15:51
Giorgio

Tour de Corse - France

Someone knows the names ?

Tour de Corse - 1972

?????? Mercier - ????? Raffali (NSU TT gr 2)
Roger Vallet - ????? Frantz (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
Jean Valabregue - ????? Rodet (Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV gr 1)
Jean-Sébastien Couloumiès - ?????? Couloumiès (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
Georges Debussy - ????? Mari (Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV gr 1)
?????? Cogo - ?????? Legall (Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV gr 1)
Roland Fiat - ????? Fiat (Opel Ascona SR 1900 gr 1)
Alain Calais - ????? Silani (Renault R12 Gordini 1600 gr 2)
J?????? Mattei - ?????? Vivarelli (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 4)

Tour de Corse - 1973

Bernard Picone - ????? Davini (Opel Ascona SR 1900 gr 1)
????? Chevanne - ????? Boutin (Opel Ascona SR 1900 gr 1)
??????? Santini - ?????? Vivarelli (Opel Ascona SR 1900 gr 1)
Jean-Louis Barailler - ?????? Poggini (Opel Ascona SR 1900 gr 1)
?????? Gordon - ?????? Bastelica (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
Jean-Claude Torre - ?????? Vendasi (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
??????? Brancaleoni - ?????? Marchioni (Audi 80 gr 2)
Yuji Nishimura (J) - ?????? Tanaka (J) (Datsun 240Z gr 3)

Tour de Corse - 1974

?????? Simonetti - ????? Simonetti (Renault Alpine A110 1800 gr 4)
Michel Collomb - ?????? Sawas (Porsche 911 S gr 3)
"Bagheera" (?????? ?????) - ?????? Pedinielli (NSU gr 2)
?????? Moreau - ?????? Dreyer (Simca Rallye 2 gr 2)
????? Bastid - ?????? Petroni (NSU ?? gr 1)
????? Bastelica - ????? Sanna (Opel Ascona SR 1900 gr 1)
????? Putzolu - ?????? Putzolu (Simca Rallye 1 gr 1)
?????? Galgani - ?????? Dominici (Renault R12 Gordini 1600 gr 2)

Tour de Corse - 1975

Henri Gréder - "Celigny" (?????? ?????) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 4)
Charles Alberti - ?????? Cachard (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
?????? Reggioni - ?????? Invantes (Porsche 911 gr 3)
????? Casanova - ??????? Biscanbiglia (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
J????? Pallanca - ?????? Quartino (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
?????? Mari - ?????? de Susini (Toyota Celica gr 1)
????? Murati - ?????? Pomponi (Audi 80 GT gr 1)
G?????? Fantino - ?????? Dor (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
Jean Clugnac - ??????? Goyeneche (Simca Rallye 2 gr 1)
?????? Alerini - ?????? Agostini (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)

Tour de Corse - 1976

Jean-Claude Sola (F) - N?????? Sola (F) (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
Luc Desangles (F) - P?????? M?????? Feretti (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
?????? Mercier (F) - ?????? Marchioni (F) (Citroën CX GTI gr 2)
"Bagheera" (?????? ?????) (F) - "Titus" (?????? ??????) (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
Jean Bondrille (F) - ?????? Scarbonchi (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
G?????? Fantino (F) - A?????? Giuge (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
?????? Cau (F) - Nonce Leca (F) (Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV gr 1)
?????? Maccioni (F) - ?????? Arrii (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
?????? Torre (F) - ?????? Lorente (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
?????? Silvani (F) - ?????? Bastelica (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
?????? Pautesta (F) - ?????? Sauce (F) (Peugeot 104 ZS gr 1)
?????? Baldacci (F) - ?????? Secondi (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
?????? Touquet (F) - ?????? Lienard (F) (Toyota Corolla gr 2)

Thanks in advance
Giorgio
27th November 2009, 22:48
FAL

Guys, can anyone help with a Monte Carlo entry list for 1963 (numbers below no.152 - I have seen a list for 152 onwards) or results listing Don Grimshaw in an Austin Healey 3000?
28th November 2009, 14:27
januszsz

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAL

Guys, can anyone help with a Monte Carlo entry list for 1963 (numbers below no.152 - I have seen a list for 152 onwards) or results listing Don Grimshaw in an Austin Healey 3000?

I found a certain G.Grimshaw in an Austin Healey 3000 classified in 205th position in Monte Carlo'62. Is it possible that "Don" is a short form of "Gordon"?
regards
Janusz
28th November 2009, 14:53
januszsz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giorgio

Someone knows the names ?

Tour de Corse - 1972

?????? Mercier - ????? Raffali (NSU TT gr 2)
Roger Vallet - ????? Frantz (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
Jean Valabregue - ????? Rodet (Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV gr 1)
Jean-Sébastien Couloumiès - ?????? Couloumiès (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
Georges Debussy - ????? Mari (Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV gr 1)
?????? Cogo - ?????? Legall (Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV gr 1)
Roland Fiat - ????? Fiat (Opel Ascona SR 1900 gr 1)
Alain Calais - ????? Silani (Renault R12 Gordini 1600 gr 2)
J?????? Mattei - ?????? Vivarelli (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 4)

Tour de Corse - 1973

Bernard Picone - ????? Davini (Opel Ascona SR 1900 gr 1)
????? Chevanne - ????? Boutin (Opel Ascona SR 1900 gr 1)
??????? Santini - ?????? Vivarelli (Opel Ascona SR 1900 gr 1)
Jean-Louis Barailler - ?????? Poggini (Opel Ascona SR 1900 gr 1)
?????? Gordon - ?????? Bastelica (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
Jean-Claude Torre - ?????? Vendasi (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
??????? Brancaleoni - ?????? Marchioni (Audi 80 gr 2)
Yuji Nishimura (J) - ?????? Tanaka (J) (Datsun 240Z gr 3)

Tour de Corse - 1974

?????? Simonetti - ????? Simonetti (Renault Alpine A110 1800 gr 4)
Michel Collomb - ?????? Sawas (Porsche 911 S gr 3)
"Bagheera" (?????? ?????) - ?????? Pedinielli (NSU gr 2)
?????? Moreau - ?????? Dreyer (Simca Rallye 2 gr 2)
????? Bastid - ?????? Petroni (NSU ?? gr 1)
????? Bastelica - ????? Sanna (Opel Ascona SR 1900 gr 1)
????? Putzolu - ?????? Putzolu (Simca Rallye 1 gr 1)
?????? Galgani - ?????? Dominici (Renault R12 Gordini 1600 gr 2)

Tour de Corse - 1975

Henri Gréder - "Celigny" (?????? ?????) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 4)
Charles Alberti - ?????? Cachard (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
?????? Reggioni - ?????? Invantes (Porsche 911 gr 3)
????? Casanova - ??????? Biscanbiglia (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
J????? Pallanca - ?????? Quartino (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
?????? Mari - ?????? de Susini (Toyota Celica gr 1)
????? Murati - ?????? Pomponi (Audi 80 GT gr 1)
G?????? Fantino - ?????? Dor (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
Jean Clugnac - ??????? Goyeneche (Simca Rallye 2 gr 1)
?????? Alerini - ?????? Agostini (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)

Tour de Corse - 1976

Jean-Claude Sola (F) - N?????? Sola (F) (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
Luc Desangles (F) - P?????? M?????? Feretti (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
?????? Mercier (F) - ?????? Marchioni (F) (Citroën CX GTI gr 2)
"Bagheera" (?????? ?????) (F) - "Titus" (?????? ??????) (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
Jean Bondrille (F) - ?????? Scarbonchi (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
G?????? Fantino (F) - A?????? Giuge (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
?????? Cau (F) - Nonce Leca (F) (Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV gr 1)
?????? Maccioni (F) - ?????? Arrii (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
?????? Torre (F) - ?????? Lorente (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
?????? Silvani (F) - ?????? Bastelica (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
?????? Pautesta (F) - ?????? Sauce (F) (Peugeot 104 ZS gr 1)
?????? Baldacci (F) - ?????? Secondi (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
?????? Touquet (F) - ?????? Lienard (F) (Toyota Corolla gr 2)

Thanks in advance
Giorgio

Tour de Corse - 1973

BERNARD Chevanne - ????? Boutin (Opel Ascona SR 1900 gr 1)
JEAN-PIERRE? Gordon - ?????? Bastelica (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
Yuji Nishimura (J) - A. Tanaka (J) (Datsun 240Z gr 3)

Tour de Corse - 1974

"Bagheera" (MAURICE SENHAONI?) - ?????? Pedinielli (NSU gr 2)
JEAN-PAUL Moreau - ?F. Dreyer (Simca Rallye 2 gr 2)

Tour de Corse - 1975

JEAN Pallanca - ?????? Quartino (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
JEAN-PIERRE Mari - ?????? de Susini (Toyota Celica gr 1)
JOSE? Murati - ?????? Pomponi (Audi 80 GT gr 1)
GEORGES Fantino - ?????? Dor (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)

Tour de Corse - 1976 - I THINK IT IS 1977

"Bagheera" (MAURICE SENHAONI?) (F) - "Titus" (?????? ??????) (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
GEORGES Fantino (F) - A?????? Giuge (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
"TITI" Maccioni (F) - JEAN-YVES Arrii (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
JEAN-CLAUDE Torre (F) - ?????? Lorente (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
JEAN-CHARLES Silvani (F) - MARIO? Bastelica (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
GEORGES Pautesta (F) - GERARD Sauce (F) (Peugeot 104 ZS gr 1)
F. Baldacci (F) - ?????? Secondi (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
?????? Touquet (F) - CHANTAL? Lienard (F) (Toyota Corolla gr 2)
Regards
Janusz
28th November 2009, 15:58
Giorgio

Very thanks, Janusz!

Regards
Giorgio
28th November 2009, 16:11
januszsz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giorgio

Very thanks, Janusz!

Regards
Giorgio

It looks that you know following names:
TdC'72
Jean-Pierre Nicolas / ??? Lroche
???? Laloge / Joseph Pantalacci
???? Collomb / ????? Raffin
Thierry Sabine / ???? Peyroux
Francis Vincent / ??? Bontaz - Alfa Romeo ???? gr.??
TdC'73
??? Colombo / ???? Dazin
Christian Gardavot / ??? Ancey
TdC'75
??? Marchisio / ???? Reynard
TdC'77
Roland de Libran / J????? F????? du Roure
May you share them with me?
Regards
Janusz
28th November 2009, 20:05
FAL

Thanks Janusz - I have sent PM.
29th November 2009, 11:28
Carles Bosch 02

Quote:

Originally Posted by januszsz

It looks that you know following names:
TdC'72
Jean-Pierre Nicolas / ??? Lroche
???? Laloge / Joseph Pantalacci
???? Collomb / ????? Raffin
Thierry Sabine / ???? Peyroux
Francis Vincent / ??? Bontaz - Alfa Romeo ???? gr.??
TdC'73
??? Colombo / ???? Dazin
Christian Gardavot / ??? Ancey
TdC'75
??? Marchisio / ???? Reynard
TdC'77
Roland de Libran / J????? F????? du Roure
May you share them with me?
Regards
Janusz

TdC '72:
Pierre (not Jean-Pierre) Nicolas / ? Laroche
Jean Laloge / Joseph Pantalacci
Michel Collomb / ? Raffin
Thierry Sabine / J.-P. Peyroux

Carles.
29th November 2009, 15:40
januszsz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carles Bosch 02

TdC '72:
Pierre (not Jean-Pierre) Nicolas / ? Laroche
Jean Laloge / Joseph Pantalacci
Michel Collomb / ? Raffin
Thierry Sabine / J.-P. Peyroux

Carles.

Thank you Carles so much.
Regards
Janusz
29th November 2009, 16:06
Terence Bower

Quote:

Originally Posted by januszsz

I found a certain G.Grimshaw in an Austin Healey 3000 classified in 205th position in Monte Carlo'62. Is it possible that "Don" is a short form of "Gordon"?
regards
Janusz

Many thanks Janusz,That is a missprint,I have the info for 62 and what you say is correct.I have known the car for a long while,restored it back in the early eighties etc.I had a call from an ex-owner telling me he and a friend had bought the car in 63/63,it had been damaged on what he understood to have been the Monte,when he bought it he was told that it was actually the ex Pat Moss car before it was sold to Donald Grimshaw.I do have photos of the car in its damaged state,but I am trying to ascertain the year the photo was taken,ie,63 or 64.Could you tell me where you found your information please?
29th November 2009, 17:09
FAL

Since I was working on some early 60s RAC Rally data anyway, I had a look for DG. He was entered on the 61 RAC as No.18 with Brian Melia and the 62 RAC as No.46 with G.Allen. Healey both years - presumably carrying registration DG95 rather than a works reg, whether or not the same car?

(No record of DG on 64 Monte)
29th November 2009, 18:02
Giorgio

TDC - 1972
Thierry Sabine - Jean-Pierre Peyroux (Porsche 911 S gr 3)
Francis Vincent - Bernard Bontaz (Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV gr 1)

TDC - 1973
Jacques Colombo - Daniel Dazin (Opel Ascona SR 1900 gr 2)
Christian Gardavot - Jean Ancey (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)

TDC - 1975
Michel Marchisio - Claude Reynard (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)

TDC - 1977
Roland de Libran (F) - Jean-François du Roure (F) (Porsche 911 Carrera gr 3)

Regards
Giorgio
29th November 2009, 19:25
januszsz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terence Bower

Many thanks Janusz,That is a missprint,I have the info for 62 and what you say is correct.I have known the car for a long while,restored it back in the early eighties etc.I had a call from an ex-owner telling me he and a friend had bought the car in 63/63,it had been damaged on what he understood to have been the Monte,when he bought it he was told that it was actually the ex Pat Moss car before it was sold to Donald Grimshaw.I do have photos of the car in its damaged state,but I am trying to ascertain the year the photo was taken,ie,63 or 64.Could you tell me where you found your information please?

I have that information from Maurice Louche's book "Le Rallye Monte Carlo de XXe siecle" and from "The Motor" of 31st January 1962.Regards
Janusz
29th November 2009, 19:34
januszsz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giorgio

TDC - 1972
Thierry Sabine - Jean-Pierre Peyroux (Porsche 911 S gr 3)
Francis Vincent - Bernard Bontaz (Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV gr 1)
TDC - 1973
Jacques Colombo - Daniel Dazin (Opel Ascona SR 1900 gr 2)
Christian Gardavot - Jean Ancey (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
TDC - 1975
Michel Marchisio - Claude Reynard (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
TDC - 1977
Roland de Libran (F) - Jean-François du Roure (F) (Porsche 911 Carrera gr 3)
Regards
Giorgio

Thank you Giorgio!
Do you have final times from Mercier (21st) to Mattei (30th) from TdC'72?
Regards
Janusz
29th November 2009, 22:37
Carles Bosch 02

Quote:

Originally Posted by januszsz

Thank you Giorgio!
Do you have final times from Mercier (21st) to Mattei (30th) from TdC'72?
Regards
Janusz

Here you are, Janusz:

10h21'17"3
10h21'45"9
10h26'53"4
10h32'14"9
10h39'52"9
10h44'43"8
10h46'57"5
10h55'33"1
11h01'19"1
11h19'47"1

Carles.
29th November 2009, 22:39
Giorgio

Quote:

Originally Posted by januszsz

Thank you Giorgio!
Do you have final times from Mercier (21st) to Mattei (30th) from TdC'72?
Regards
Janusz

No, Janusz...

Regards
Giorgio
30th November 2009, 16:41
januszsz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carles Bosch 02

Here you are, Janusz:
10h21'17"3
10h21'45"9
10h26'53"4
10h32'14"9
10h39'52"9
10h44'43"8
10h46'57"5
10h55'33"1
11h01'19"1
11h19'47"1
Carles.

Carles, you are Great!
Thanksa lot!
Janusz
1st December 2009, 14:51
Giorgio

Tour de Corse 1977

Jean-Claude Sola (F) - N????? Sola (F) (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
Luc Desangles (F) - P?????? M?????? Feretti (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
?????? Mercier (F) - ?????? Marchioni (F) (Citroën CX GTI gr 2)
"Bagheera" (F) - "Titus" (?????? ?????) (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
Jean Bondrille (F) - ?????? Scarbonchi (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
Georges Fantino (F) - A?????? Giuge (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
?????? Cau (F) - Nonce Leca (F) (Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV gr 1)
?????? Maccioni (F) - Jean-Yves Arrii (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
Jean-Claude Torre (F) - ?????? Lorente (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
Jean-Charles Silvani (F) - ?????? Bastelica (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
Jean-Claude Bassoul (F) - ?????? François Bassoul (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
F?????? Baldacci (F) - ?????? Secondi (F) (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
??????? Touquet (F) - ?????? Lienard (F) (Toyota Corolla gr 2)

Tour de Corse 1978

Jean-Marie Soriano - G????? Morelli (Renault Alpine 110 gr 4)
Georges Fantino - A?????? Giuge (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
V????? Sanna - Gilbert Luigi (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
F?????? Baldacci - J?????? Cristiani (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
Jean-Pierre Deriu - "Chasty" (????? ?????) (Simca Rallye 3 gr 1)
F????? Bartoli - Jean-Louis Colonna (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
P?????? Gusciani - R?????? Pradier (Renault Alpine A110 1600 gr 3)
Mathieu Martinetti - F?????? Coubard (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
Xavier Bartoli - Mme ?????? Bartoli (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
J????? B????? Bastelica - P?????? Colombani (Volkswagen Golf GTI gr 1)
"Ize" (????? ?????) - Jean-Claude Guilbert-Moine (Porsche 911 SC gr 3)
B?????? Pasqualini - P?????? Massiani (Peugeot 104 gr 1)
M?????? Bussotti - ?????? d'Apolo (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 2)
L?????? Tomasi - M?????? Giudicelli (Simca Rallye 2 gr 2)

Tour de Corse 1979

????? Istria - ?????? Giacomoni (Toyota Starlet gr 1)
Claude Balesi - ????? Balesi (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)
André Paoletti - ?????? Santucci (Opel Kadett GT/E gr 1)

Thanks in advance
Giorgio
3rd December 2009, 06:39
Terence Bower

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAL

Since I was working on some early 60s RAC Rally data anyway, I had a look for DG. He was entered on the 61 RAC as No.18 with Brian Melia and the 62 RAC as No.46 with G.Allen. Healey both years - presumably carrying registration DG95 rather than a works reg, whether or not the same car?

(No record of DG on 64 Monte)

Thats great Fal,many thanks,yet again.Donald bought the ex Pat Moss car from the works and always used the DG number.
As there is no record of it for 64,that narrows things down a bit,the old photo sent to me shows the car having the earlier mentioned damage,that must have been in 63,the year Donald sold it immediately after it came back from the Monte.In 63,it was involved in a nasty accident,the co-driver died from sustained head injurys,possibly would have survived had he been wearing his harness! Another owner Graham Gramma I think,has stated that he owned the car in 1968 so I just have the five year gap to sort out.I know the car was kept in London during 66/67 but cannot trace the Dealer,it is thought that he emigrated to Spain. The rest of the cars history has been authenticated.
3rd December 2009, 11:59
Sumak

can someone add?
Rallye Monte Carlo 1993
#63 Scagnetti,???; ???
#68 Costes, T??; ???
#70 du Castel, Xavier; ???
#76 Cirillo,???; ???
#126 Dafit, Philippe; ???
#158 Houel, Georges; ???
#184 Moreau,???; ???
#180 Perlino,???; ???
3rd December 2009, 20:21
FAL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terence Bower

Thats great Fal,many thanks,yet again.Donald bought the ex Pat Moss car from the works and always used the DG number.
As there is no record of it for 64,that narrows things down a bit,the old photo sent to me shows the car having the earlier mentioned damage,that must have been in 63,the year Donald sold it immediately after it came back from the Monte.In 63,it was involved in a nasty accident,the co-driver died from sustained head injurys,possibly would have survived had he been wearing his harness! Another owner Graham Gramma I think,has stated that he owned the car in 1968 so I just have the five year gap to sort out.I know the car was kept in London during 66/67 but cannot trace the Dealer,it is thought that he emigrated to Spain. The rest of the cars history has been authenticated.

That wouldn't have been Derek Astle, who was killed on the Tulip Rally? Not sure of year but thought it was 62 but may have been 63. He had a Healey 3000 and was in Knowldale Car Club with Don Grimshaw, according to Stuart Turner's book.
Any idea which part of London the dealer in 66/7? If west London, Chequered Flag or Performance Cars ought to be in the frame?
3rd December 2009, 22:22
FAL

DG - 62 Monte No.45 - 3 photos :
(well down the page)
http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto...43862-5740.htm
4th December 2009, 08:54
Giorgio

Someone knows....

24° Rally Lyon - Charbonnières / Stuttgart - Solitude

?????? Knollman (D) - Joachim Gransow (D) (Opel Kadett Rallye 1900 gr 1)
Noël Labaune - ?????? Mounier (Porsche 911 S 2400 gr 3)
?????? Gaupp (D) - ?????? Fuchs (D) (Opel Kadett Rallye 1900 gr 1)
?????? Mayr (D) - ??????? Giesser (D) (BMW 2002 TI gr 1)
Daniel Thourot - ?????? Thourot (Renault Alpine A 110 1600 gr 4/6)
?????? Khulewein (D) - ?????? Wossner (D) (Autobianchi A112 903 cc gr 2)
?????? Gunther (D) - ?????? Graf (D) (NSU 1000 TTS gr 2)
Wolfgang Hohing (D) - ?????? Wetzel (D) (BMW 2002 TI gr 1)
??????? Dehm (D) - ????? Killiam (D) (Opel Kadett 1900 gr 1)
??????? Fuchs (D) - ?????? Eymann (D) (Ford Capri GT 2600 gr 1)
??????? Hilger (D) - ??????? Grimm (D) (BMW 1600 TI gr 1)
??????? Gudladt (D) - ??????? Schummelfeder (D) (Volkswagen-Porsche 914 2000 gr 4/6)
??????? Schuster - ?????? Druba (BMW 1600 TI gr 1)
??????? Wattendrorf (D) - ?????? Berg (D) (BMW 2002 TI gr 1)
Thierry Sabine - ??????? Chanall (Ford Capri 2600 gr 1)
?????? Glasbrenner (D) - ?????? Urban (D) (Opel Manta 1600 gr 1)
?????? Weidmann (D) - ?????? Herrmann (D) (Opel Kadett Coupé 1900 gr 1)
?????? Frohlich (D) - ?????? Gronau (D) (Ford Escort 1300 gr 2)
?????? Saur (D) - ?????? Schnitzer (D) (Fiat 128 1100 gr 1)

Thank you
Giorgio
5th December 2009, 20:47
Terence Bower

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAL

That wouldn't have been Derek Astle, who was killed on the Tulip Rally? Not sure of year but thought it was 62 but may have been 63. He had a Healey 3000 and was in Knowldale Car Club with Don Grimshaw, according to Stuart Turner's book.
Any idea which part of London the dealer in 66/7? If west London, Chequered Flag or Performance Cars ought to be in the frame?

FAL,unfortunatly I have not been able to find out where in London the car was kept,yet!
It was Derek in 63,thats when the car was sold on [as a wreck] From What I understand,Donald did the Tulip with Derek doing the driving,Donald took over[as co- driver] and put it off,the rest,sadly,is history.
8th December 2009, 23:05
FAL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terence Bower

FAL,unfortunatly I have not been able to find out where in London the car was kept,yet!
It was Derek in 63,thats when the car was sold on [as a wreck] From What I understand,Donald did the Tulip with Derek doing the driving,Donald took over[as co- driver] and put it off,the rest,sadly,is history.

Have you seen the 3 photos? (link in post no.831 above)
10th December 2009, 17:12
FAL

Quote:

Originally Posted by januszsz

I found a certain G.Grimshaw in an Austin Healey 3000 classified in 205th position in Monte Carlo'62. Is it possible that "Don" is a short form of "Gordon"?
regards
Janusz

I've now seen a 1960 RAC Rally list with him shown as G.D.Grimshaw. I don't know what the G stood for but he was known by his second name Donald (Don).
14th December 2009, 18:33
dario

Lyon-Charbonnieres

Can someone help me , j would like to know the results of :
Lyon-Charbonnieres 1960 - 1961 - 1962 - 1963 - 1967 - 1968 - 1969 -
Thanks in advance
Best egards
Dario

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