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Israeli responses might be disproportionate (I don't think the majority of them aren), and it is certainly your right to think it is. My comment was written to show that if anything is distasteful, It's comparing Israel to nazi Germany.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Had you read the complete thread, you would have seen that I have no problem with anyone having different views to mine, and certainly haven't been calling everyone who opposes my views anti-semitic.
You were insinuating I was being racist before....................Quote:
Originally Posted by Rani
That may well be the case, however when anyone criticises Israel you immediately come back with "what about the holocast and what we have suffered". Yes, I have visited Warsaw and as I have said previuosly I have visited former concentration camps. Even though you may not agree, I know for a fact that Hitler did not only target jews. Communists, homosexuals, Gypsies, Jehovah's Witnesses, criminals, POWs and other political prisoners were imprisioned in the camps.
How about some justice for ordinary Palestinians. There seems to be one rule for jews and another rule for arabs
Another interesting article:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...02/2152758.htm
By the way Rani you still haven't answered my question. Have you read Jimmy Carter's book?
Why do you think I believe Jews were the only victims of the Holocaust? I already said earlier in this thread that I know other cultures and races were targeted by the Nazis. I think they deserve just as much recognition for their suffering.Quote:
Originally Posted by Camelopard
Another interesting article: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...cle%2FShowFull
No I haven't had a chance to read Jimmy Carter's book.
This is hard to believe, ya know.
Israel is here to stay. Fatah accepts this and wants to get a homeland for the Palestinians. Hamas wants Israel gone and will accept nothing less than that. Eki, if you can't tell the difference you are clearly not looking at it, because its as plain as the sunrise.
Israel's actions against the Palestinians at times are very inappropriate. Blockading Gaza isn't, really. When you have rockets flying from anywhere they get - including school rooftops and playgrounds - what choice does Israel have to stop these rockets? Hamas needs to face the fact that Israel is not going away, and they will be outcasts until that is recognized. Period.
If so, Palestine's land may need to be divided into two region, one for Fatah and for Hamas respectively. Israel can stay wherever Fatah have pointed out for them.
After reading this earlier
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...ction-1.291142
I thought it better to put in this thread rather than the cartoon one!
When a country like Qatar (which now has the highest GDP per person in the world according to the IMF) wants to help Palestinians in Gaza and to restore diplomatic relations with Israel, you would think the zionists would grab the opportunity with both hands.
This refusal makes it fairly obvious to all and sundry that Israel dosen't want peace with it's middle eastern neighbours.
Actually I really think they are gearing up to attack Lebanon soon and this was indicated to me by locals in Beirut last month. People I spoke to seemed resigned to the fact that israel would attack them again this summer.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...order-1.291604
I don't understand it either. Probably an ego thing on behalf of our foreign minister who I think is not doing his job well. Deductiong from this that Israel doesn't want peace is foolish in my view. I would understand a leader's need to have an enemy to unite the people against in poor totalitarian countries like North Korea or Syria but what interest does the leadership of a country in relatively good shape have to profit from this. I'm sure Netanyahu would love to have his name on a peace deal with Syria just like the late Menachem Begin who was also head of the Likud party. Peace with Syria is not possibe while it supplies Hizbuallah. Peace with Lebanon is not possible while it harbours Hizbuallah. Peace with Hamas isn't possible, since their major goal is to exterminate Israel. Peace with Fatah is possible and steps are being taken to get there. What other neigbours do we have? Oh yeah Jordan and Egypt, We already have a peace with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Camelopard
Don't you think it's wise to have a homefront drill since Hizbuallah has received Scud shipments (which have a longer range and carry a heavier warhead than the missiles they used in 2006) lately?Quote:
Originally Posted by Camelopard
I hope a war doesn't start but you must be prepared for any scenario.
I think Israel is a realist. There will never be peace in the middle east. How long as this been going on??? Israel and the rest need to contain the wars within the middle east. We need to blow out of there and head for Arizona.
Think the main problem is that the Arab States (barring a couple) do not recognize Israel as a seperate country...I don't see how a fruitful discussion can happen if there's no question of recognizing Israel's legitimacy...
I do believe that the palestinians got a raw deal when Israel was formed...but I think Israel is doing somethings right , atleast it is not showing itself as a weakling....and is projecting itself as a country who won't take terrorism lying down..I wish India would follow the same policy but the Indian governments are too much into minority appeasement :(