2012 Presidential Race

What saddens me about the GOP was that it had strong leaders like Barry Goldwater. What happened? People who were level-headed are non-existent in the GOP. Militant Christians are overrunning the party! No one is willing to compromise, therefore, we have a stagnant government and volatile government.

The hatred on both sides is palpable. Sometimes it feels in America as if we're a massive powder keg and the Presidential elections of 2012 are like a matchstick coming dangerously close to igniting the populace.

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Originally Posted by gloomyDAY

Good thing I'm an atheist. No need for me to bow down to some invisible deity. This is basically stating that you should accept the status quo and not question authority even when you're being driven to the ground. No, f'q your religion. Christianity intertwined with the GOP is the reason Congress can't compromise.

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I'm sorry but the GOP is hardly a representation of Christianity and certainly not a representation of Christ. The bible speaks far more about helping those in need and king's duties to be generous to their people than the GOP are prepared to admit.

As a Christian I would be deeply offendend to be represented by either the GOP or the Democrats and the fact that the Christian right is so easily manipulated suggests to me that there is a distinct lack of any critical thinking whatsoever.

I wonder what the Christian right would have to say about something like this with regards their support of the two major parties in US politics?
Proverbs 14:31 Whoever oppresses a poor man insults his Maker, but he who is generous to the needy honors him.

I completely understand your suspicions of Christianity and so-called "Christian politics"; especially given that it appears that so many people sing songs and leave their conscience at the door of a church on Sunday and merrily go about their own horrid business the rest of the week.

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Originally Posted by gloomyDAY

What saddens me about the GOP was that it had strong leaders like Barry Goldwater. What happened?

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They had strong leaders, like Goldwater...who just happened to be borderline insane. Which side of the border it was is the only question.

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People who were level-headed are non-existent in the GOP. Militant Christians are overrunning the party! No one is willing to compromise, therefore, we have a stagnant government and volatile government.

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We as a people unbelievably lucky where we ended up, have always tended to think and talk in strong dichotomies. You see it everywhere (but its just part of the forest so being a tree in the forest it just jump out and smack you) Look how people talk of cars "Its WAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAY bitchin " or "What a pile of junk" (hell not even a good rant like That car makes me want to vomit! Why its so gutless it only runs by somehow extracting power from other cars. It's styling reminds me of something I spewed and then flushed. I better get an icepick an stab me eyes out so I don't hafta see it!!! Arrrrrgh!) No just "It's junk") or wimmins "She's soooooooooooooooooooo hot" or "Bitch".

This being a motorsport forum, don't know what branch you look in on but for me its rally just gravel rally. 1st and 2nd after 3 hours maybe separated by a few seconds or an actual 0.003% and some guys "he's soooooooooooo fast" and the other "He's washed up, hang up the helmet," and the key one, you must have seen it ---always written by some Jabba-the-hut like gnome "second place is the first LOSER". <-------That's the problem....for idiots with no sense of anything, their own words and the American obsession on "winning" means you win or you don't take part. Any uncertainty---don't take part..

In my lifetime, just 60 years, the idea of compromise has become a code word for weakness, especially among the weak, fearful and protected. And of course, weak of mind.


Didya read the link to the "Paranoid Style of American Politics"? That was prompted by somebody you brought up: Goldwater.
All these hater-loon-religious whackoids are his descendants, but they've always been around.

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The hatred on both sides is palpable. Sometimes it feels in America as if we're a massive powder keg and the Presidential elections of 2012 are like a matchstick coming dangerously close to igniting the populace.

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Well the Repug base are mostly evangelical ravers, and for them it fufills they death fantasies about "End Times" and Armageddon--when they think they will waddle out and blaze away killing all of us who aren't exactly like them..

They'll still be old and fat and impotent tho.... :uhoh:

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Although now, our credit rating is AA-, the National deficit is over 16 Trillion.

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

Although now, our credit rating is AA-, the National deficit is over 16 Trillion.

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I know you don't like to look too deeply into things but did you read the credit downgrading report? You realise that it was Republican opposition to anything proposed by Obama that lead to the credit rating agencies downgrading their rating? It wasn't based on the strength of the US economy but an indictment of BOTH political parties to reach compromise that could sabotage American growth.

Oh yeah and the national deficit, do you think that might have had something to do with the credit crunch? Lets see how the American economy would fare with $100s of billions of spending cuts overnight. Good luck!

As Mark Twain once said, better to look a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Politics is fun, innit? About as much fun as women's wrestling in dirt.

I believe people have delegated way too much power to politicians and let them ru[i]n the world. People are not gonna take that power back by voting one crook or another. People would be much better off just minding their own business, ignoring the travesty called elections and thus making politics and politicians redundant.

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

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Although now, our credit rating is AA-, the National deficit is over 16 Trillion.

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Are you even able to see any of the other posts in this thread?

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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

In my lifetime, just 60 years, the idea of compromise has become a code word for weakness, especially among the weak, fearful and protected. And of course, weak of mind.

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One sees it on display too from those people who see everything in black and white, not shades of grey; those who believe in such absurd concepts as there being 'good' and 'evil' people with nothing in between, for example. I have said it many times on here, but I genuinely fear for the mental stability of some of them.

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Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz

I believe people have delegated way too much power to politicians and let them ru[i]n the world. People are not gonna take that power back by voting one crook or another. People would be much better off just minding their own business, ignoring the travesty called elections and thus making politics and politicians redundant.

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It would never happen, for human instinct, surely, always sees leaders of some sort develop.

Leaders do develop and their power is institutionalized in the government. It is up to the society to keep their leaders in check, though. With the moder days monstorus governments it is easier to fly to Mars than hold a politican accountable for his actions. That's the problem and elections are not the solution, sadly.