Osama Bin Laden Is Dead

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

Killing Osama Bin Laden has made the world a worse place to be now. The backlash is coming and it will affect all of us :(

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That may well be but it is really easy for you to criticize, since Bin Laden's men didn't run a couple of South African airliners into the centre of Capetown and kill thousands of people. You wouldn't care about backflash, you'd seek revenge. I see that most non-American writers over here don't realise how big the attack was, psychologically as well. They needed some kind of revenge, they needed to get Bin Laden, no matter what the cost. It's not going to end terrorism, nobody is saying that but it is in people's nature to seek revenge, justice, twisted or not. it's in all of us, including the writers who criticise American actions.

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

That may well be but it is really easy for you to criticize, since Bin Laden's men didn't run a couple of South African airliners into the centre of Capetown and kill thousands of people. You wouldn't care about backflash, you'd seek revenge. I see that most non-American writers over here don't realise how big the attack was, psychologically as well. They needed some kind of revenge, they needed to get Bin Laden, no matter what the cost. It's not going to end terrorism, nobody is saying that but it is in people's nature to seek revenge, justice, twisted or not. it's in all of us, including the writers who criticise American actions.

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All nationalities, including South Africans, have been affected by this so called war on terror. Our authorities over here have made several arrests of terror groups linked to Osama Bin Laden who had explosives and intel in their possesion for the attack of targets in South Africa, more specifically, targets in Cape Town. Luckily, we were able to prevent them from happening. The whole world is a target, not just the Americans, who started all this sh!t in the first place.

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

All nationalities, including South Africans, have been affected by this so called war on terror. Our authorities over here have made several arrests of terror groups linked to Osama Bin Laden who had explosives and intel in their possesion for the attack of targets in South Africa, more specifically, targets in Cape Town. Luckily, we were able to prevent them from happening. The whole world is a target, not just the Americans, who started all this sh!t in the first place.

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How did the Americans start this? I just don't see it. To me it started in 1998 in Kenya.

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Originally Posted by downtowndeco

Examples and exact quotes from GWB please.

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Well, there's his crusade speech for example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Crusade

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The word crusade was used by US President George W. Bush first on the day of the September 11, 2001 attacks, quoted below, and on the national day of mourning which honored the death of the more than 3,000 victims of the attacks. He said that "this crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while.".[1] The use of this figure of speech was criticized in Europe, and Arabic-speaking countries. Supporters of the President's usage of crusade argue that from context Bush had used the word crusade in a military, non-religious sense, such as The Great Crusade which was the phrase used by General Dwight D. Eisenhower to describe the D-Day invasion of Europe to the Allied troops in his order of the day broadcast.[2] They point to many modern dictionaries which define crusade (not capitalized) to include any vigorous action aimed at achieving a particular noble goal.[3][4] However, particularly in predominantly Muslim parts of the world, the term crusade produces the same sort of negative reaction as the term jihad does in much of the West.

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Then there's his "You're either with us, or against us" -speech. He left no middle ground, and I think he gained more enemies than friends with that speech. At least Bin Laden has never demanded us to join him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You're_..._or_against_us

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The phrase "you're either with us, or against us" and similar variations are used to depict situations as being polarized and to force witnesses and bystanders to become allies or lose favor. The implied consequence of not joining the team effort is to be deemed an enemy.

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

How did the Americans start this? I just don't see it. To me it started in 1998 in Kenya.

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They have been funding terrorist and extremist groups for decades to fight the wars they could not legally fight to achieve their own greedy agendas. Now it is coming back to bite them. Saddam was the first one, now the rest are coming out to play.

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For 10 years, Osama bin Laden filled a gap left by the Soviet Union. Who will be the baddie now?

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...t-union-baddie

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

America is not perfect and has made mistakes, but that comes with the territory of being the most powerful country in the world. Would the world be better off if the biggest super power in the world was Russia/Soviet Union or China?

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My dear friend, If you haven't noticed then China is now the biggest super power, they have achieved this by far more clever ways - economics!

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

How did the Americans start this? I just don't see it. To me it started in 1998 in Kenya.

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http://www.allgreatquotes.com/osama_...n_quotes.shtml

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God knows it did not cross our minds to attack the towers but after the situation became unbearable and we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the American-Israeli alliance against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, I thought about it. And the events that affected me directly were that of 1982 and the events that followed -- when America allowed the Israelis to invade Lebanon, helped by the U.S. Sixth Fleet. As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me punish the unjust the same way (and) to destroy towers in America so it could taste some of what we are tasting and to stop killing our children and women.

Osama bin Laden
Admitting responsibility for attacks on US on September 11, 2001, on videotape shown on Al Jazeera, October 29, 2004

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thanks God we have people defending the guy who encourages his sons to go on suicide missions, who thinks he'll be rewarded in the afterlife with countless virgins for killing others and when faced with his enemies hides behind a woman. these people are arguing for the sake of arguing or they're just morons. Either way it's a waste of time to keep reading what they're saying.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Shoot the *******s dead and save the circus atmosphere and a lot of money.
Eric Holder made an ass out himself, Obama and the U.S. by putting a terrorist on trial, I think, hope, Pres. Obama learned his lesson. Sometimes learning the hard-way is the best way.

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Arguably it would've been a greater psychological blow to Al Qaeda, as having him captured alive would've caused great humiliation to their organisation and those like it.