Lars Vilks gets the muslim free speech treatment

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Originally Posted by Camelopard

So the Jews got "their" land back, please tell me if you think Judaism is a religion or if Jews are a race of people?

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Judaism is a religion but also a nationality.Some have called it a race but I don't agree with those guys.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Why the Jews had the land before the Muslims, they have nothing to apologize for.
They got THEIR land back.

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Not the same Jews got. Those Jews who were there before the Muslims have been dead for centuries. In the same way, you don't have the right to your ancestral land in Germany anymore. You or your ancestors left, they lost their place. Does make sense, doesn't it?

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

The term--Jew-- comes from the tribe of Judah.
Race-- they are just a bunch of white boys.
Religion-- The Jewish religion is named after them.
God gave them the land, they pissed it away, but now they have it back.

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These Ethiopian Jews don't look like a "bunch of white boys" to me:

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http://www.jewishweb.co.za/images/il...ryver-book.jpg

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Originally Posted by Eki

Not the same Jews got. Those Jews who were there before the Muslims have been dead for centuries. In the same way, you don't have the right to your ancestral land in Germany anymore. You or your ancestors left, they lost their place. Does make sense, doesn't it?

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Leaving and being deported forcefully isn't the same. If you choose somewhere better to live and desert your homeland you only have yourself to blaim. BTW Jews have been living here continuously since those times, albeit at smaller numbers.

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Originally Posted by Rani

Judaism is a religion but also a nationality.Some have called it a race but I don't agree with those guys.

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To me it doesn't matter, because I consider racial, ethnic and religious discrimination all unacceptable.

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Originally Posted by Eki

To me it doesn't matter, because I consider racial, ethnic and religious discrimination all unacceptable.

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So why is it always you bringing up that the Jews don't deserve to live in Israel? Regardless of the chain of events leading up to it, the current country of Israel is occupied by mostly Jewish people, living there legally. It shouldn't matter where they were born, how old they are, or if their ancestors lived in what is now Israel. They are legal residents.

Your argument seems to be that history should be changed, but only that history that supports your bias, views, and discrimination against certian inhabitants in certain countries.

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Originally Posted by Eki

Not the same Jews got. Those Jews who were there before the Muslims have been dead for centuries. In the same way, you don't have the right to your ancestral land in Germany anymore. You or your ancestors left, they lost their place. Does make sense, doesn't it?

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That statement is ignorantly stupid.

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Originally Posted by Eki

These Ethiopian Jews don't look like a "bunch of white boys" to me:

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There were twelve tribes of Israel, and those from of Judah were the most loyal to God, but as the twelve tribes are said, by some any way, to include all three races-- they -- if they are loyal to the God of Israel can still be of the Jewish Faith; whereas the Bible say that in the last days they will be saved by the hairs of their chinny-chin-chins simply because of the covenant God made with the Jews.

There is no such thing as a white race except among politicians using it to divide and separate, but as Caucasians would be the "white" race, skin color or not, unless they are from a racially mixed marriage, people with dark skin from the near east are as much white boys as are Swedes.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

That statement is ignorantly stupid.

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Pray tell why this is the case?

I can trace part of my family tree back to a small village called East Harling in Norfolk from the very early 1700's.

These ancestors were Quakers, who at the time were a persecuted religious minority and as such emmigrated to many parts of the world so they could practise religious freedom.

So by using your logic, I should be able to return and claim what is perhaps rightfully mine....... Best get in quick then hadn't I!

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Originally Posted by Camelopard

Pray tell why this is the case?

I can trace part of my family tree back to a small village called East Harling in Norfolk from the very early 1700's.

These ancestors were Quakers, who at the time were a persecuted religious minority and as such emmigrated to many parts of the world so they could practise religious freedom.

So by using your logic, I should be able to return and claim what is perhaps rightfully mine....... Best get in quick then hadn't I!

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Vacuous rhetoric in the mode of -- oranges are round; therefore all round things are oranges.

One thing you are not employing is logic as your statement is not related, in any manner, to the one by Eki that was ignorant in the greatest degree, although your knowledge of why the Jews put claim to their land seems to equal Eki's.