Almost official: USF1 wouldn't race in 2010

The sad part of the whole saga is that it may scare possible American involvement in F1 further away in the short(ish) future at least. US is a proud nation and they deserve a proper racing team, not a joke like this. What a shame. Ken Anderson has also a history of uncompleted racing cars (if we remember that Falcon project). USF1 has at times been compared to the likes Life and Andrea Moda, but let me tell this - they are actually worse. At least Life and Moda made it to F1 races, even if their cars barely managed to get further than exiting the pits. :p :

Meanwhile, if Twitter rumour is to be belived, Lopez is off to Campos:

@legardj Campos have engines! Cosworth delivered to Dallara yesterday. Shakedown may be in Bahrain. Told Lopez for Senna. Nobody confirming

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Meanwhile, if Twitter rumour is to be belived, Lopez is off to Campos

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I'm amazed Senna hasn't been able to drum up some sponsorship and is on course to be dislodged by Lopez, who no one has ever heard of.

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The sad part of the whole saga is that it may scare possible American involvement in F1 further away in the short(ish) future at least. US is a proud nation and they deserve a proper racing team, not a joke like this. What a shame. Ken Anderson has also a history of uncompleted racing cars (if we remember that Falcon project). USF1 has at times been compared to the likes Life and Andrea Moda, but let me tell this - they are actually worse. At least Life and Moda made it to F1 races, even if their cars barely managed to get further than exiting the pits. :p :

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Europeans have a quaint idea of the United States. We live in a VAST nation in a country the size of a continent with such diversity that people in New York City can have little in common with folks in rural Georgia - other than being Americans.

So the "nation" as such "feels" nothing about whether there is an American F1 team or not or whether it would win or not.

But there is a hardcore of knowledgeable F1 supporters who love F1 and were responsible down the years of supporting the US GP in places like Watkins Glen and Long Beach and even somewhat Detroit for a while. They did not take kindly to Dallas or a Las Vegas car park.

For a team from the United States to make its presence in F1, it will probably take time to find finance, it will require the principal to be a Chip Ganassi or Roger Penske and only then, can any project begin to move.

And anyway, Penske is a winner as a constructor in F1. America's "Mclaren team" would succeed again.

Have to agree with Saint Devote. Many that have never visited the US have no idea of how large the US truly is or how different it is from region to region, state to state, even neighboring city to city.

USF1 might have a bit more of a chance at success if the team principal waving the American Flag was himself an American. Penske far and away could have put together a respectable F1 effort again. His Indycar team of the early 90's tat built their own chassis season after season was nothing shy of an F1 effort, even if they were built in england.

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Europeans have a quaint idea of the United States. We live in a VAST nation in a country the size of a continent with such diversity that people in New York City can have little in common with folks in rural Georgia - other than being Americans.

So the "nation" as such "feels" nothing about whether there is an American F1 team or not or whether it would win or not.

But there is a hardcore of knowledgeable F1 supporters who love F1 and were responsible down the years of supporting the US GP in places like Watkins Glen and Long Beach and even somewhat Detroit for a while. They did not take kindly to Dallas or a Las Vegas car park.

For a team from the United States to make its presence in F1, it will probably take time to find finance, it will require the principal to be a Chip Ganassi or Roger Penske and only then, can any project begin to move.

And anyway, Penske is a winner as a constructor in F1. America's "Mclaren team" would succeed again.

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well said

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Have to agree with Saint Devote. Many that have never visited the US have no idea of how large the US truly is or how different it is from region to region, state to state, even neighboring city to city.

USF1 might have a bit more of a chance at success if the team principal waving the American Flag was himself an American. Penske far and away could have put together a respectable F1 effort again. His Indycar team of the early 90's tat built their own chassis season after season was nothing shy of an F1 effort, even if they were built in england.

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yep. If you were to tell me a US group was going to enter F1 , I would have said Penske, Gannassi, or Andretti Green, maybe even Rahal Letterman. but I would not have guessed a bunch of fringe F1 guys with no backing, no real operation or mechanism for raising funds, no built in followers and supporters, no heritage from a rich US motorsports heritage, etc etc. would be the ones trying to call themselves USF1 and wave the American flag in a contrived way to build support whilst lacking in every department. A while back I was giving them flack for not actually employing US drivers, etc but I can now see how, scott speed, Andretti, Busch, and others might have asked some questions about USF1 and chosen to walk far away from the enterprise. Might also explain the snarly statement they made about no US drivers capable or worthy of super licenses.

Posted on another forum.
Attempted to call the factory. The phone line has been disconnected.
This poster had talked to the receptionist before. :(

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Have to agree with Saint Devote. Many that have never visited the US have no idea of how large the US truly is or how different it is from region to region, state to state, even neighboring city to city.

USF1 might have a bit more of a chance at success if the team principal waving the American Flag was himself an American. Penske far and away could have put together a respectable F1 effort again. His Indycar team of the early 90's tat built their own chassis season after season was nothing shy of an F1 effort, even if they were built in england.

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No offence but remember that many of us Europeans travel a lot more than you guys and learn geography much more as well, at least in this country, so we know exactly how large and diverse the US is. And the diversity is still pretty small compared to the differences between different European countries.

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No offence but remember that many of us Europeans travel a lot more than you guys and learn geography much more as well, at least in this country, so we know exactly how large and diverse the US is. And the diversity is still pretty small compared to the differences between different European countries.

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I definatly have to agree,we have an idea of the size of US ,still EUrope as hole isnt any smaller at all, Russia is even bigger and diversity in Europe is much more obvious,finaly language is different in each of the countries.

And about performance in F1 ,if you look the drivers wich gone from F1 to states to drive they manage to make names for them selfs even those wich didnt go well in F1. F1 one is much more slick game much more tehnical and definaly harder ,in US you can with enough money, get parts from her and there and make team and the car wich would be more or less same as others in F1 simply you cant,that is main reason that usualy new teams start from old ones ,and gaining experiance and parts from old ones.

Even such companies as Mercedes,BMW,Renault wich defianly have know how to build a car didnt start makeing their F1 cars from scratch.

While we talk about difference btw US and Europe I am thinking ,how big opsticle in buiding a car are measurments. In US people use imperial measures while in Europe people use metric ones and conversion isnt so straight forward as one might think.And many parts for F1 car you have to get from Europian companies because they only produce them.

I work in engeenering and I can "feel" how much is 10 cm but hardly I can "feel" how much is 4 inches even if that is near 10 cm (acctualy 10.16 cm wich is enough difference that two parts would not fit,10 cm is almoust exactly 3 inches and 30/32 ,you see..to complicated ! ) :)