There is such a social stigma attached to tobacco branding that no team would accept money from a cigarette company, even if there were no laws or bans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
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There is such a social stigma attached to tobacco branding that no team would accept money from a cigarette company, even if there were no laws or bans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Ferrari has Marlboro advertising "camuflated" for some reason.
Not sure (some teams anyway) any stigma for a cash starved sport like WRC especially outside Europe and North America. You really think a team would refuse 2 or 3 or 5 million? Ask Papa Wilson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prisoner Monkeys
As said Ferrari are Marlboro sponsored and just extended it to 2015 along with Ducati.
Phillip Morris (owners of Marlboro) own all the sponsorship space on the Ferrari.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Ok, but the make are hide with the barcode stlyle.
Ferrari are the only team that really accepts money from a tobacco company. They cover it up with the barcode design, but that doesn't exactly to much for them - everyone knows the barcode means "Marlboro". They supposedly removed the Marlboro barcode from the car, dropped the company from their team name (they're now "Scuderia Ferrari" instead of "Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro") and introduced a new team logo, but the team logo looks suspiciously like the new Marlboro packets ...
As Ogier is apparently doing every rally in something, is he entitled to be classified as in the SWRC or not? As is he is not allowed in the SWRC; that little championship could be blown wide open.
IF there is SWRC Championship this year, there are only 6 entrants and FIA has right to cancel the series if less then 10Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
Brynildsen just said no budget for SWRC, I was hoping he was 1 extra entrant....
There is a growing issue with tobacco in the old Western world, but there are more smokers in China alone than there are people living in Western Europe and US combined. Last year there were an estimated 600 million smokers in China (Source: CNBC)Quote:
Originally Posted by Prisoner Monkeys
It's still good business (just check the stock prices on tobacco companies). The cigaret combanies biggest problems are counter fitting where classic brands are copied and filled with crap tobacco and sold cheaply all over the world.
Wow if that is the case then who will those who enter a s2000 be competing against? What will happen to the current 6 entrants?Quote:
Originally Posted by ProRally
ProRally: This is the situation Volkswagen was waiting for. They are not dummies. They will enter the swrc. Nobody will worry they are factory team and they have more money in such situation, they will save the SWRC and will be heroes.
I don't think they care about that.
The FIA may consider registrations until 10 January 2012, subject to agreement and availabilityQuote:
Originally Posted by ProRally
Correct - restrictions are country specific. Finland for example bans alcohol advertising above a certain % content, UK does not. We ran Carib Beer advertising on our car on Wales Rally GB 06.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
Correct, but that is next week tuesday.... just a week for 4 more to register in a not so cheap championship....Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Alternative, maybe FIA will let it 'ride' and do it with less then 10....
Wasn't that the case of last JWRC season?
Can't see FIA cancelling S-WRC, 6 or whatever entrants, it'll still run.
Agree. With what they're letting Prodrive get away with, they'd be hard pressed to screw anyone else too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
Arzeno will probably do French Championship Asphalt, so no IRC?? :-/
So who could buy the second Mini seat for loose surface rallies of the season instead of Östberg?
Bad times for WRC.
As expected Quesnel has moved on.
Just out of curiosity, what's the scheme with Bouffier in Polish championship where he drives "Tedex WRC" P207 S2000? Is he payed?
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Originally Posted by noel157
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i think so yes, he´s doing polish championchip for some years now, as far as i remember he was polish champion once too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
Not only once, three times!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by darkstar
hehe ok ;) at least 33,33% right then...
"It's time to re-establish history" - so says the press release from Sweden World Rally Team with the aim to give a Swedish drivers the chance to compete in the WRC in 2012.
An awesome line-up behind the initiative, including Bjorn Waldegard, Stig Blomqvist, Thomas Rådström, Jan Pettersson, Leif Asterhag and Staffan Parmander
There will be an exciting start to the year 2012 Swedish Rally, despite the dreary winter weather here around the Mälardalen region.
A long-awaited press releases by e-mail came from Sweden World Rally Team.
In the mail, you can read:
"- 1979, Bjorn Waldegard the first World Champions. Five years later it was again time for a Swedish to step onto the throne when Stig Blomqvist drove home the World Championship title.
- Rally was red hot and is one of the great popular sports in Sweden. The money flowed and re-growth flourished. But then something happened. While the sport was growing more and more international, they were Swedish talent increasingly difficult to deliver. Talent there, but they never got the chance. Until now.
- Sweden World Rally Team is a joint effort by some of the biggest rally profiles of all time. Together, they have hundreds of World Cup starts, delsegrar and World Cup titles in track list. And a tremendous skill.
-Sweden World Rally Team is an elite investment that gives a Swedish drivers the chance to compete in the WRC class already in 2012. "
Monday, January 9 is Sweden World Rally Team press conference and it will be interesting to see what, or what, drivers will be matched up.
The rumor says that it's Patrik Sandell to drive a Mini in Sweden Championship and some WRC events.
Great news with Sweden WRT. If it's MINI they chose I expect it to be run by Grifone. They seem - together with Motorsport Italia - to be the team that now has experience running the MINI WRC car.
One note: I would chose PG over Sandell
Think PG is busy that weekend...........
PG will drive the Proton in SWRC, so he'll be busy all season...
He wasn't Peugeot Polska official driver in last two years (before yes). Those were Kuchar (2010) and Grzyb (2011). Bouffier was using private car with Polish sponsors.Quote:
Originally Posted by darkstar
happy to present that what i have filmed this year in rally : my BEST OF 2011 video.
Best Of 2011 PLANETEMARCUS.COM - YouTube
Enjoy
Prodrive-Mini-Ehe vor dem Aus*:: rallye-magazin.de
MINI will be another Suzuki with just 1 year in the series?
Shame :sQuote:
Originally Posted by Motorsportfun
It seems that guys like Richards and Wilson are unreal about costs of WRC for value of sport. Germans aren't stupid to give all that money for nothing.
Clearly DR is more unreal than Wilson!Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Very brave and stupid statement, I'd say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Remember that MSD asked from hyundai 250 000euros or GBP/car/rally for low results. It's normally that manufacturer left. And now this situation with promoter, very bad for sport.
Official CRT video and interview with Hirvonen:
Citroën Racing - WRC 2012 - Hirvonen testing the DS3 WRC before Monte-Carlo - YouTube