Some photos from rally emaitija 2016:
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Some photos from rally emaitija 2016:
https://www.facebook.com/motorsunspo...22471871144310
Raimund Baumschlager testing for Schneebergland Rallye 2016:
http://www.ir7.at/brr21016.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/content/brr210616.html
Hermann Neubauer won Schneebergland Rallye, Austria, in front of Gerwald Grössing (both Fiesta WRC), third Raimund Baumschlager (Fabia R5), fourth Niki Mayer-Melnhof (Fiesta R5). All results still not official.
I think the Schneebergland Rally was a breaking point in Austrian championship. As it was held on gravel where Baumschlager has with his long-years experience an advantage over WRC boys (honestly-they are not known as a gravel experts...), I expected a tight fight for the victory.
But Neubauer (at the beginning also Grossing) was faster and has done a huge step towards the championship crown.
Think so too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ucci
Gallery Schneebergland Rallye 2016:
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_best...llye_2016.html
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_orm_...llye_2016.html
http://www.ir7.at/sbg16.jpg
Video Schneebergland Rallye 2016 - 11 Min:
http://www.ir7.at/sbg16v.jpg
https://vimeo.com/172298018
Onboard Raimund Baumschlager - SS1:
https://vimeo.com/172286308
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Turkish Rally Championship is back on game with Leg 4 Bursa.
This year Bursa is all gravel again (switch from Tarmac to Gravel every year) with fast hard and hot stages.
Competion will be between CFTT - Orhan Avcioglu (Fiesta S2000), Neo Motorsport Yagiz Avci (Munaretto run 208 R5) and BCVision Motorsport Burak Cukurova (Friul run DS3 R5). CFTT's Murat Bostanci as told switch from Fiesta R5 to Fiesta R2T again as the season opener at Izmir.
Also there will be a strong competion at Gr.N Class between Lancers.
For itinerary http://www.bossek.org.tr/wp-content/...4%B1nerary.pdf
For stage maps http://www.bossek.org.tr/wp-content/...harita_V02.png
I will update for entry list too.
Our Team BCvision have 3 crews as Burak Cukurova with DS3 R5, Ahmet Burkay 208 R2 and Serkan Koparipek 208 R2.
Hope the martial law status and general disquiet in Turkey won't affect things. Have a good rally :)
Rally Weiz in Austria :
1. Neubauer (Fiesta WRC)
2. Baumschlager (Fabia R5)+20,5
3. Grossing (Fiesta WRC)+ 1,29,6
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8. Von Thurn und Taxis (Fabia R5)+ 9:56,4
After day one Baumschlager was in the lead, but obviously Neubauer had a solid sleep and put the things today on the right position. I'm disappointed over Grossing performance, he was faster as Baumschlager just on three stages (and without any troubles, loosing constantly).
The German ''royal'' driver set some solid times on the last few stages.....
Austrian "royal" driver Niki Mayer-Melnhof (Audi works driver) with Fiesta R5 on 4th place.
Gallery Rallye Weiz 2016:
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_best...weiz_2016.html
http://www.ir7.at/weiz16.jpg
Video ORM Rallye Weiz 2016:
http://www.ir7.at/weiz16vid.jpg
https://vimeo.com/176038131
I was at Weiz yesterday, so some thoughts on the event:
-The rally was good as always in every aspect (organization, weather, stages, etc.);
-Baumschlager was very spectacular to watch, had a controlled drive but always on the edge (at least where I was), and his Fabia was visibly head and shoulders above all the other R5s I've seen this season (maybe he's using factory spec?);
-Neubauer looked like he was pushing just enough to beat Baumschlager, but he was spectacular nonetheless;
-Grössing's car sounded well, but he was visibly slower than the first two;
-Mayr-Melnhof looked faster than his times;
-good drives from the top 2WD crews, especially Böhm, but there's so much you can do with R2 against R3s;
-the Mégane Maxi still sounds very well :D
All in all a good event, absolutely worth the trip again.
Transilvania Rally - 6th round of the Romania championship
1. Simone Tempesitini Ford Fiesta R5 00:48:29.9
2 Bogdan Marisca Ford Fiesta R5 +01:08.3
3 Dan Gartofan Skoda Fabia R5 +01:30.3
Simone lead the championship, he has won 4 rounds.
Final results of Rally tatry, Slovakia
1. Ondrej (Fabia WRC) 47:35,6
2. Valoušek (Fabia R5) +32,2
3. Hádik (Fiesta R5) +1:08,5
4. Majerčák (Fiesta R5) +1:24,8
5. Tomaštík (Impreza WRc S12B) +1:49,4 (10 sec penalty)
6. Kukučka (Fabia R5) +3:39,6 (1:00 penalty)
7. Gavlák (Evo IX gr.N) +4:10,0
8. Cserhalmi (Evo IX gr.N) +4:25,3
9. Kundlák (208 R2) +4:55,5 (15 sec penalty)
10. Nagy (208 R2) +5:48,8
Grzyb (Fiesta R5), Melichárek (Fiesta WRC), Drotár (Fabia WRC), Trencsényi (Fiesta R5) all retired with technical problems.
From Samsonas Racing facebook page:
"Tragicomedy of BMW M3X and Rise of a Phoenix Maxi R5
Here we want to share our lonely considerations and thoughts about whole rally situation in Lithuania.
Of course biggest attention now is given to our fresh M3X car. And there are two sides or two camps of thinkers.
Biggest side of course is a true fans and rally lovers, who admire, love and are so excited about very interesting new car under rally sky..
Other side is unhappy side. Who are those guys? For sure not rally fans. Probably some scared drivers? Probably some part of rally ''politicians''? Actually it doesn't matter so much.
Now speeches spread and work is done to compare speeds of M3X and Mitsubishi and even R5. And plans rise how to make M3X less fast.
So let us ask whole rally word few, but very interesting questions. And let everyone answer for themselves. Once again, this is not propositions or facts, it is only considerations.
- How is it possible, how is it wise, to compare 2001 Year make street designed stock model BMW with 100% special R5 rally car, specially designed for toughest race conditions?
- How is it possible to compare 1200kg R5 against 1360kg BMW?
- Why nobody compares stage times when last year we drove Evo8? It was exactly same situation, just this year we are prepared much better.
- We had a historic win in Talsi. Why only all rally fans of all world congratulate us? Why not our sports politics?
- Generally speaking, rally is unfair sport at all! We can have different conditions for different drivers. Some can have dust, some can drive without dust. This is totally unfair. Lets ban dust!
Some can drive on rain, some can drive on dry! Rain is unfair, lets forbid rain. Some can drive when still clear view, some might need to drive in the dark, so darkness is unfair! Lets ban it!
Some can buy more new tires, some cannot. So new tires are unfair, we must ban it!
- Why nobody looks now at ERC Estonia results? Evo9 group N is much much faster than M3X. This is unfair, lets ban grN!
- Why WRC and Formula1 and other racing championships have drivers classification and also MANUFACTURERS classification? Are they stupid?
Why in these championships fight best car manufacturers like VW, Peugeot, Citroen, Renault, Skoda, Hyundai, Mercedes, Ferrari, Honda and so on?
Once again, open Rally Championship is not just a Cup/Series championship.
Regarding all this situation, and with a big wish to play honest (as we did all times, reading rules and making cars according to rules), for next year we negotiate with our old and good partner Roberto Mendez Competition regarding their new homologated Peugeot Maxi R5. This car has similar parameters engine like Skoda R5, has Samsonas Motorsport Sequential transmission on a basis of Subaru gearbox. Has same weight as R5 and very similar suspension.
And one more thing. Looking for guilty ones will never make you go forward. Looking how to make yourself better will make you better.
See you soon!"
https://www.facebook.com/Samsonas-Ra...4552026438796/
He's moaning and whining a bit too much for my taste.
It is obvious that his BMW is fast as hell and making the sport more equal for everyone is natural in rallying. It is not like he suddenly after thirteen years of rallying career learnt how to drive and started winning.
Whatever rules they run, he has interpreted them better than everyone else and he reaping the benefits.
Of course this would not go on forever and he should not be surprised.
Samsonas was fast enough to be on podium last six or seven years, but drove 2WD or had technical problems with 4WD. Last year drive Evo8 and manage to be faster than everyone else, including Lukyanuk (in another "home made" fast car) http://rallyutena.com/lt/bendri-rezultatai Yes, later Samsonas had accident with spectators car on side of stage...
Samsonas building great cars, and for some guys with big pockets he is enemy. When he drive 2WD BMW - car is too fast, sits in Subaru - car is too light, now again too fast. So many accusations against Samsonas, but there is national lithuanian rally spice - accuse faster guy, that he are breaking rules (or bending them).
Today was the 5th round of the Hungarian Championship, the Székesfehérvár Rally (this year on tarmac stages only). It was a big fight between Herczig and Tóth, which was decided after Tóth collected two punctures on back-to-back stages and having had only one spare had retired (but this info is not official). Botka was present too, testing settings and because of this maybe but he was very slow (also had a puncture along the way). Anyways, if I'm not mistaken Herczig needs a few points from the next event to become champion.
Results:
1. Herczig-Bacigál, Skoda Fabia R5 53:51.2 (132.7 km/h average!)
2. Velenczei-Farnadi, Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX R4 +25.3
3. Hadik-Kertész, Ford Fiesta R5 +48.9
4. Vincze-Kuti, Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX R4 +58.0
5. Spitzmüller-Béres, Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X R4 +1:17.8
6. Balogh-Holczer, Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX +1:31.4
7. Kazár-Ferencz, Ford Fiesta R5 +2:11.3 (+10s pen.)
8. Botka-Szeles, Citroën DS3 R5 Evo +2:32.8
9. Trencsényi-Verba, Ford Fiesta R5 Evo +2:33.7
10. Ollé - Czakó-Budai, Ford Fiesta S2000 +2:39.3
Edit:
Tóth actually crashed out after having a puncture and falling behind Herczig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liT0HMZmfIA
And Herczig is already champion!Quote:
Originally Posted by TWRC
Funny thing is when people cry, complain or just make their statements and they have no idea (most of the time at all) about what they are talking about.
I think there is only one person who drove Samsonas M3X and some R5 cars and has direct comparision. All the others who complain don't know a lot about R5 cars and also don't know too much about M3X. Yeah, it's very nice, very fast car, but cannot be compared to R5...
Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
That's why I prefer very clear and very firm rules even if it means to loose a bit of variety because that's the only way to prevents such situations.
Yes, but those rules are quite clear and Samsonas M3X is build 100% according to those rules, 100% clear car. I think it's not faster than Evo from last year, just with set-up (and most important general handling characteristics) which suits the driver much more.
Mirek, for sure you know it's not possible to build in small garage, even with best people and some amount of money, car performing similar to the one build by works team with big experience, not limited tests kms, etc. So no chances to compare with Skoda, Ford, etc. Samsonas car drove 20kms of light test (more like roll-out) and immediately won first stage of Sarma rally. Then of course technical issues, but it's normal with some prototype project with limited testing.
Most local people don't want to accept the fact that it's the driver who makes the difference. I have some experience with plenty of drivers and Samsonas on gravel is an exceptional talent! If he has clear mind and car which suits him he can be crazy fast. Of course he lacks experience, etc, but pure speed and talent are amazing.
I doubt that Samsonas driving suddenly and magically got faster since last year...Quote:
Originally Posted by br21
If the details of his post are correct I can guarantee that his BMW makes more power than the R5s. There is no way something more than 100 kgs heavier is that much faster with the same driver without considerable power gain. He is probably running completely without restrictor.
Samsonas took advantage of lax rules and now he risk being held back by the same rules. I don't feel sorry for him.
Any idiot can go fast with lax rules. Turbocharged LS engines makes crazy power from a very condensed package so if I were to drop one into a Subaru with a strong enough transmission I could beat Samsonas tomorrow, and all Samsonas "rally fans" would be mighty impressed.
When Samsonas beats an R5 on equal turf I'm impressed. Until then I think he is complaining too much.
I'm not an expert, but N/A engines doesn't need restrictor according rally rules, and his BMW engine is N/A. According national rules engine must be made in same factory as a car (e.g. BMW with BMW engine, Subaru with Subaru, etc.) and must be up to 3500 ccm (turbo*1.7), so M3 engine fits these rules. Yes it has more power than R5 - BMW E46 M3 S54 B35 414Hp 429Nm. https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...04552026438796Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
It's hard to tell if he's faster than last year as a drives, 2015 he won 1 rally, and retired 2 times as leader, 2014 was 3rd overall with 2wd BMW E30 M3, in 2013 was 2nd overall in Lancer EVO IX. ANd in Rally Žemaitija 2016 his braking points was much more closer to Tidemand, and Rovanpera jr. than everybody else with R5, WRC (Old generation), and proto cars.
He was untouchible in autocross, he is fast in rally stage, and now when he made quick car, and combine it with his skills, suddenly everybody start attach him for being faster than everybody else.
That is the fact wich hurts most the owners of R5.....and also manufactures.Quote:
Originally Posted by br21
Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
He was already fastest last year with Mitsubishi, which was way more powerful than current BMW. And previous years also pretty fast with 2WD BMW.
You can of course have your opinion, that normal. But don't write that you "guarantee" anything about what you have totally no idea.
He had problems winning Lithuanian national events last year and all of a sudden this year he is faster than the entire ERC field.Quote:
Originally Posted by br21
I have no idea where you get your information but seriously... Not even Ogier could beat the entire ERC field with something that according to you is weaker and heavier than an R5 car. It is impossible.
I don't know the exact rules in Lithuania, it was more of an example. If it was as easy as I described we'd have people wrapped around trees daily.Quote:
Originally Posted by electroliquid
If the garage builds the car under same rules as the manufacturer than I for sure agree. However if the rules are significantly different it doesn't need to be true as all the works cars are restricted. They are not the best what those manufacturers can build since the rules give them restrictions.Quote:
Originally Posted by br21
Not speaking about Samsonas as I know nothing about his case. I mean general principle why I don't support some crazy local invented rules very different than FIA ones. It's same case with GTs here in CZ where ASN basically allows whatever Invelt team comes with. In this moment nobody can say how fast their car is when there is no sensible comparison.
Ok correction... I missed that the open class did not run all the stages up until stage 13 so I compared times wrong with the main rally. My mistake, sorry about that!Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
Samsonas is still faster than most of the ERC field, but not as crazy fast as I thought he was. Apologies where apologies are due.
During Rally Estonia he was not that fast. Only one stage he won ex equo with ERC drivers, rest he was slower, around 5-7 positions most of the time.
Last season he was by far fastest on all lithuanian champs events he took part in. Just had some punctures, technical issues and one off.
I have enough data to compare acceleration, etc of M3X and R5 cars and I know what I'm writing.
8 minute onboard from Lukanyuk. He still drives the R5 like a long heavy Mitsubishi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6JLnvcEGEk
amazing drive as always. Pitty that he is out of money.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
http://automanas.tv3.lt/savadarbiams...sose-ne-vieta/ Some more info in local media about Samsonas car, and what difficulties they have faced now, sadly same accusations on Vorobjov's Mirage Proto, which isn't so "super too fast". Google translate does OK job on this article ;)
VIDEO: After big and spectacular jump crew crashed out :(
http://www.go4speed.lv/lv/news/ralli...varijas-video/
Rally Lubeník, Slovakia, saw a big battle between Valoušek, Grzyb and Melichárek. In the end Valoušek won, Melichárek's car broke down in the last stage and Grzyb hit two chicanes. Again awesome driving by Ján Kundlák with R2.
1. Valoušek (Fabia R5) 46:56,6
2. Grzyb (Fiesta R5) +15,2 (20 sec penalty)
3. Ondrej (Fabia WRC) +36,4 (10 sec penalty)
4. Majerčák (Fiesta R5) +59,3
5. Černý (Fabia R5) +1:11,1 (10 sec penalty)
6. Cvrček (Fabia R5) +2:28,8 (10 sec penalty)
7. Kundlák (208 R2) +4:11,4
8. Cserhalmi (Evo IX gr.N) +4:19,3
9. Lapdavský (Evo IX gr.N) +4:45,8
10. Tábori (C2 R2) +5:19,8
Notable retirements: Melichárek (Fiesta WRC) - technical, Drotár (Fabia WRC) - technical, Sýkora (Fabia R5) - off road, Tomaštík (Impreza WRC S12B) - technical,