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Eh, I'll take it.
Jeez Elfyn that was a close one.
Put it in the bank Elfyn, and don't do it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
So, Evans walking away with more points then rally winner, doesn't sound logical to me
It is not logial, it is only totally stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by wwbroe
Or... Lappi taking it easy for half the rally and getting less points than somebody who didn't. Makes perfect sense from that angle.Quote:
Originally Posted by wwbroe
And fight for power stage more interesting than this lovely "super Sunday".
Well deserved win for EP
Depends on what you think is more worthy to reward - the effort or the result. Traditionally it's been the latter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
Congratz to Lappi!
Hyundai does win the two first rally's of the season
Fantastic rally by EP. Had him second, but what a victory!
Congrats Lappi! very mature and nice drive
Driver of the rally is Fourmaux for me, totally surprise he could kept the pace with fastest yesterday and didnt bin it.
Cyril vs Latvala 2-0 so far this season
Emotional.
Yesssss, well done to Lappi & Ferm, 6 & a half years in the waiting, huge congrats!!!!
Very understandableQuote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Good job by EP !
This pointscoring system is a catastrofy!! So so wrong, guys. Agree!
What about manufacturer points?
We now have a points system that pushes the drivers to be fast all the time.
I see nothing wrong with that.
The rally winner is on total time, the points to the ones who win stages.
Seems that we just have 2 different problems to choose from: boring Sundays or an unfair points system.
The new points system achieves its goal: it makes Sundays more interesting. I think today could be quite boring cruising to watch without the new point system. But.. is the outcome as points fair, not sure. It's anyway a different game now and everyone knows the rules.
The real problem is the lack of competitors and no cosmetic fix changes that.
The rally winner in Sweden is leaving with less points than the driver who finished second...
Thats not true. Because of current system, Lappi and Fourmaux were cruising today as they have nothing to win, only loose. Katsuta was not pushing also as he knows that first on the road he has no chance for any good result.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Really do you think that this system makes Sunday more interesting?Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
you have to be blind not to see its more interestingQuote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
with old system they would have just cruised in the morning today, now you can see the drivers on the limit and pushing all stages, at least the top ones.
Lappi would have been cruising anyways and Katsuta was pushing, he made a mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Great for Lappi, really pleased for him. I always like to see the underdog do well and we had Fourmaux up there as well, unexpectedly I would say.
The points thing is a bit of mess, I understand the idea but awarding Fourmaux 2nd place points for finishing 3rd is a nonsense. I’m sure others have previously said, for me better to award the rally points at the end, but keep the additional points for the sunday stages.
In this case it actually worked against Fourmaux trying on Sunday as he had already got the points for 2nd on Saturday, so didn’t want to push on Sunday….
From the rally - it provided some fresh faces to the podium and stats. We can go to the pickems and see, how many predicted Fourmaux to be on the podium. (Not me, for sure).
The winter rally is anyway so unfair in many ways, like Neuville losing a crazy amount of time for opening the road.
The season is long, but Tänak has not been his life easy to achieve another title. From the title-fight perspective, Evans did really well and Neuville did good damage limitation for the already mentioned road-position disadvantage.
Nice battles in Rally2 behind Solberg's domination. Happy, and a bit surprised that Linnamäe was able to provide a good fight against Pajari. At the same time, Pajari was quite far away from Solberg.
Am I blind or you are?Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
But in general, it was really interesting rally to follow. Finally we had proper winter conditions, with the weather it was really changeable and unpredictable, Rally2 drivers were able to be faster than Rally1, two fastest drivers crashed early on beginning of the rally. So in basic it was full of interesting stories, all the time something happened.
Are there standings available anywhere?
Yes, I think so. At the same time, I'm not a fan of the new point system but I admin, and it makes Sundays more interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
I think you can do better.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
So whats the problem with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
I'm sure Esapekka had more than enough pace to take more points, but he didnt need to.
so only the second rally and the point system already shows how screwed up it is.
lappi was the fastest over the entire distance, he should get the most points.
please don't make this mistake, there are MANY better suggestions that would both incentivise sunday pushing and not have stupid resultsQuote:
Originally Posted by meh
it's not just these 2 options, there are better ways to do it
for me Sunday was not that much more interesting than before, except that drivers didn't say they are saving tyres and cruising at stage ends
F1 has similar points system but I havent seen so much complaining
almost all of which were not brought by new points system just by the rally itself happening with mistakes and a variety of weather conditionsQuote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
You can keep your opinion, I can keep mine :)
not at all!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J