But with the new rules, you don't need Porsche to sign off on it as I understand it.Quote:
Originally Posted by becher
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But with the new rules, you don't need Porsche to sign off on it as I understand it.Quote:
Originally Posted by becher
A Ł5000 parts kit that will let a Rally2(+) driver get close to a Rally1(-) car next year. Surely it cant be that cheap & easy. And if it was, why would a WRC1 manufacturer sell it and create more competition for their Rally1 car drivers ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
I suppose that without a WEC-style BoP, Rally1 will always have an edge thanks to better balance, weight, center of gravity etc.
I suppose it would be cool if that's how the category worked: Rally2+ vs new Rally1 sort of like late Grp A vs early WRC
Class wise, it'll be more old Rally1 v new Rally1.5 until old Rally1 becomes the newer Rally1.5 and the new Rally1.5 is scrapped - according to Dirtfish.
Unless you get a new 2026 Rally1 (Rally1.5 level), and there's no incentive for the current manus to do that, you won't see parity.
That 5000 price tag for ,,wrc-kit'' sounds more than unreal..
If so then how do you explain the difference..
-300k rally2 + 5k wrc-kit (that is very close to rally1 car)
vs
-ca 400k rally1 car
Where does that 100k go in the rally1 then..? If the rally2+ is supposed to be really close to top class..
Other than that, I am waiting for the next seasons :D
That's my understanding as well, especially with 'tuners' mentioned. This is great news if it's true. Something I've mentioned on this forum for years... ditch the manufacturer approval. Let the tuners develop, build and then go rallying in the car of their choice. It may work, or they may fail terribly, but at least it will add some flavour to the cake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrvold
And if a tuner's car does well, it may encourage the manufacturers to take note and possibly back them. Bring it on.
Yes you would because you're making something that looks like a Porsche and probably calling it a Porsche but it isn't a Porsche and putting it in the public eye.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrvold
Ain't happening in Rally1, very different to taking an actual Porsche and 'tuning' it for R-GT.
That's complete misunderstanding of how any small scale production works. I tried to explain in another thread some time ago so sorry for repeating myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
The far majority of the price of any part is the development cost. You can bolt a cheap thing on a car but first you need to spend huge sum to develop the car. The reason why Rally2 car is cheaper than Rally1 is the production volume. Unlike Rally1 the Rally2 work on market basis. If you build 5 Rally2 cars per season and sell none the price of one car will be most likely similar to the Rally1 car.
Also don't forget that the performance of any car is mainly driven by the rules. If by rules you design a hybrid-powered rocket with large restrictor and than remove the hybrid and make the restrictor smaller to fit the speed of cheaply upgraded Rally2 cars you automatically get a car which is grossly overpriced. But that's not an error in the design. The error is in the change of the rules and in this case FIA deliberately chose to make the Rally1 cars look ridiculous for the one season before new cars come.
Rally Canarias in WRC from next season say reports...
https://rallyjournal.com/what-news-t...e-destination/
Apparently Saudi Arabia is a done deal for next year: https://rallyjournal.com/a-new-addit...-championship/
Taken from the article:
"According to the French magazine Autohebdo, confirmation for the Saudi Arabian event is expected as early as March."
Aren't they supposed to have a candidate event if they're to hold a WRC event next year?
Hey, You can't be so naive.
It is Saudi Arabia. They don't need candidate event.
I thinl that if they wanted, they could buy out an event even for 2024 season.
If we leave all that politics bs aside(as we can't change it anyway), I believe it would be an awesome event for a rally fan.
In fact, nobody needs to be a candidate event...Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
Madeira was WRC candidate some years before IRC starts.
You don't have to run a candidate event now, you just have to run a stage to full WRC status during an event, to show that you are up to the task as will happen in Ireland if the money comes available. And at the minute the money still hasn't appeared...
I'm not, but I'm pretty sure last time they realized it, they didn't have an event the following year; I'll admit as a rally it would probably produce a good show.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
Saudi has been a for sure for several seasons now, yet I looked past ten years on ewrc, not a single rally results on there. Was there ever one? Look on the SAMF website, a rally is a rally raid. I can see it not happening again.
No, there has never been a Saudi rally in the Middle East Rally Championship nor a rally worth of note. There's the Hail Baja/Rally and of course the Dakar but no traditional rally, unless they're small regional rallies we don't know about.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
Canary Islands join the calendar next season
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/canar...slot-for-2025/
I wonder if it'll come instead of Croatia (since they still need to renew their contract) or Ireland (which have yet to secure funding), assuming Saudi Arabia is the 14th event slot.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Nice to see this was correct and Rally Journal is a good source of info for the future...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
It's nice addition to calendar but seems like future of Croatia in WRC is at risk.
Best way to handle it would be WRC/ERC rotation for those rallies and similar rotation for Poland, Estonia and Latvia.
With all due respect to Croatia, I think this will be a cooler event, and this is also proof the WRC can have island events, ehm Corsica, ehm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Backa
Sardegna is doing rather well. Maybe difference is that stages aren't spread across whole island like it usually was in Tour De Corse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Anyway, with so many decent canditates to host the rally in Europe, I think rotating spots with ERC is way to go for less iconic rallies.
Sardegna pays nicely, one of the only European events to survive covid-19 back in 2020.Quote:
Originally Posted by Backa
Croatia got an extended contract and rally base is going to be located in IstriaQuote:
Originally Posted by Backa
is this information reliable? this has been talked about since the very beginning of WRC CroatiaQuote:
Originally Posted by manthey
there was an article about posted on thsi forumQuote:
Originally Posted by NoFear85
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoFear85
https://istarski.hr/node/94195-wrc-c...ji-jedan-uvjetQuote:
Originally Posted by manthey
Here it is.
Šaškin says that WRC Promotor is offering them a contract until 2027.
Nothing is confirmed.
So, the route will be the same this year, but from 2025. it will be in Istria.
He said it will be some changes from 2025.-2027., he didn't say it will be held in Istria.Quote:
Originally Posted by Managarium
It's quite complicated to move everything in Istria...
A real Lancia 037 Rally was present at the Italian premiere of the movie "Race for Glory - Audi vs Lancia" in Turin. Have a look at the photos:
https://www.media.stellantis.com/em-...alian-theaters
Too bad the movie sucked ass.
This is a badly made movie, pity that they couldn't pull this out..Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
Lancia unveils the new HF logo, which will make its debut on the new Lancia Ypsilon HF:
https://www.media.stellantis.com/em-...nveils-hf-logo
Don't know how reliable, but Portuguese FB groups have been gossiping about a possible Portuguese Rally1 entrant in Portugal? Not one of the main national title contenders, for sure, from what I've read. Does anyone more in the know want to spill the beans or give us a hint as to when it's confirmed?
Kris Meeke and his new passport.Quote:
Originally Posted by tonirali
Diogo Salvi in Ford Puma Rally1. Old dream of him not allowed sooner cause FIA requirements. He is very rich and razonable driver. Droves only gravel rallies after big crash in tarmac some years ago. Son of 1977 portuguese champion Giovanni Salvi (Italian decendent).