Someone has just forgotten to do it :D Atleast after PS..Quote:
Originally Posted by Kras
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Someone has just forgotten to do it :D Atleast after PS..Quote:
Originally Posted by Kras
What is really nice is that everyone is still in the game, we have not lost anyone from top3 fight due to a crash or puncture. I hope everyone now can deliver and finalize their hard work through the weekend.
Where is our Sunday times standings from our beloved promoter?
From promoter nowhere. They are not interested in them, like most of the rally world...Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Do you actually enjoy writing comments like this? Quite an attitude definition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kras
Feels like some yellow newspaper commentarium vibes here...
So the solution to the Sunday points is to ignore it except for when a driver says he is "pushing for Sunday points" with no context for the viewer. Indeed this has helped the show massively, I hope their servers can handle the milions of new fans rushing to pay 120 euros to watch a spinning map.
Best comment so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
I’ll add, just look at all the manufacturers flocking in, getting in line to join the championship for 2025-2026.
It really is a failing for All-Live / the promoter to not have done a better job with the Sunday standings. 0.7s between Evans and Tanak is a very interesting battle, also 2.7s between Tanak and Ogier and 1.7s between Munster and Katsuta are all tight margins fans can get interested in. These types of battles were one of the reasons for the introduction of this system. However no mention of this in the coverage, unless I missed it at the very end?
On a different note though 3 stages is not enough to justify 7 extra points in my opinion, and not enough to make these fights as interesting as they could be.
I hope they will improve they job.
The 3 lads at the top of WRC2 have been mega, flat out the whole rally pretty much and only a few seconds in it. They are 4 minutes ahead of the rest.
Ogier was surprised at Neuvilles pace on the first stage today, and other people are right, he isn’t interested in the points for today.
I agree with others, what were Hyundai thinking putting Mikkelsen in for this rally instead of Sordo?
Let’s see how his season unfolds, but I can’t help thinking he would have been better having a full season in the Puma, despite it not being as good a car as the Hyundai. At least he would have had maximum seat time and good chance at some good results later in the season on gravel. Even if he goes well later in the year, he will be asked to step aside for the other guys surely?
Maybe he will do some rough gravel If Sordo retires in PortugalQuote:
Originally Posted by doubled1978
I got the same sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
I think the object of the change was to stop drivers coasting on Sunday morning, not to make the scoring system fun for viewers. I'm cautiously optimistic that it has had some success -- Tanak and Evans would probably have saved it for the power stage on the old system, but now they're going for "Sunday points". Of course, as you said earlier, we will need to see more rallies.
However, the law of unintended consequences has produced a mighty annoying system for serious fans trying to understand what's happening. I can't imagine it will suck in casual fans, either.
They need to sort out the data, graphics and commentary to present this in a way that makes the scoring system interesting instead of irritating. Sports like baseball can do this, so WRC should be able to.
what on earth is Hyundai thinking over all putting him only on tarmac rounds?Quote:
Originally Posted by doubled1978
very weird decision. Next round for him now is Croatia in April and then he will have a 6 month gap basically until Central Europe. He wont develop or get used to the car at all with this rate
Because Lappi is better on gravel anyway and having four cars yields nothing pointswise, just little testing.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Again, I’d change strategy and put him in Kenya instead, it isn’t a rally Sordo nor Lappi have enjoyed too much success since the event’s inception in ‘21. He’d also be benefiting from a lower starting order and since that’s a rally that’s more about endurance rather than speed, he could go along like he did here and still finish 5th~ (assuming he himself doesn’t run into technical or mechanical issues); after that let him have a go in Poland, which is a rally that he likes and after experiencing the car in Kenya, he’ll have a better understanding of it on gravel.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Agreed. I would definitely give him some gravel rounds
About Mikkelsen. He isn't fighting for the drivers championship. Two best Hyundais are in front of him for the matter of manufacturer championship. And I think that he is only one with almost no seat time at all. Munster did it before and Adrien too. All other have few years already. We saw Evans yesterday without hybrid. He was slow as f***. He just needs to adapt to aero & hybrid. He is actual WRC2 champion and two time monte carlo winner in Rally2 category. And obviously wants to stay on the road. I'm very impressed with Adrien. Really down to earth. Neuville flying this weekend.
What I really like is their after stage commentary. First they ask about their feeling and then reveal splits. That way we see their real reactions and not pre-scripted (Evans' ''to be honest'') interviews.
Do you actually enjoy being the grumpiest forum user?Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
A bit childish response, but ok, I answer for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kras
Our style and view of the valuable content is different for sure. I get more and more, why guys like AnttiL left the forum and we lose valuable content when this happens.
Sometimes it feels like there is some blame competition - like who can say the more interesting way that all-live is a group of amateurs, or whatever. This is usually a symptom for a group of teenagers.
Yes, there is room for improvements, they don't cover the new points system in an understandable way, etc, but as you can see from different forum posts, it is possible to say it out in a different way.
It would be interesting to know not only what tyre type each driver selected but also what is the state of them. At this moment everyone is using somewhat used tyres and what may look like someone's resignation on fight can also be his worn tyres. I have noticed only Lopéz commenting on his tyres being pretty worn and likely worse than those of Rossel but it may be similar for some of the big boys (and the statement can be also a psychological play from him of course).
I know this is a bit unrelated but do the WRC2 crews also move to Hankook next year? Is it for all 4 wheel drive classes or only Rally1 has to use them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I guess both switch to Hankook but I don't know that for certain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Maybe, but even if they do he will still be short of seat time and under pressure to be fast on day 1 when he has road position advantage. If he can’t go quick enough he will be early on the road on Saturday and event over.Quote:
Originally Posted by CeskyOndra
Hankook
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The renowned global company will be responsible for providing tyres to the premier Rally1 vehicles as well as those in the WRC2, WRC3 and FIA Junior WRC support championships.
You are asking way too much from RallyTV. They cant even figure out basic things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
You’re probably right, and it’s also easier than having to make tv direction decisions but I can’t think of any other motorsport broadcasting that works like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
I don't think that the teams (their customers) would be happy if they spied on such details. It was more of a rhetorical question from my side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
I get what you're saying, but we're just having a laugh. Also i don't believe we're too being to harsh to the promoter, as we are paying decent money for a service that is really subpar. I get that providing an continous live video feed from a rally event is a a technical feat, but the post production side of the broadcast is tragic to say the least. Most of the community ran gaming tournaments on twitch have better production value. Not showing the relevant standings, not talking about close fights for sunday points. What is that if not being an amatuer at your job. If it was a free broadcast, most people wouldnt complain.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
It would be a good idea if FIA allowed a handful of extra test days per year for drivers with zero Rally1 starts so drivers like Mikkelsen can get up to speed or to develop/assess young drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Seems many of you guys concentraded more on points scoring than watching the fastest rallycars in the world in the most iconic rally since decades.
I´m not giving pointscoring system a s**t, while watching. That will be analysed after. In the mean time I saw AnttiL clearifying what seems to be the outcome of the new system. That´s enough for me atm
Now I´m concentrating on PS. RMC 2024 is going to history in many ways. I´ve been enjoying it very much so far, without caring about points.
Adding to that I´d say the promoter now gives us better ways to watch a stage after live broadcast. They divided broadcasts stagewise. (Or was it even before?)
Actualy first they need to FIX basic issues with service, like lagging, login-off, crashing, non-friendly user-face (menus), non-working cast, spread or make app for tv (still majority of systems don't have it, like android/google tv), speed, live timing tables (there are no splits).. And one more thing (I don't know it's this possible), times did actualy come in pretty faster than video footage and not simultaneously. In 2024, we have this service for 6 years already, but basics are so bad, that it's hard to ignore. No excuses for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
I agree with all that, previously only the way how to deliver your mis-satisfaction was the topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
About the streaming delay - I think it has been always like that. It is for situations when something dramatic happens "on live", then the live stream will be cut. We have seen it happening last year with heavy crashes (but I don't remember the examples to list right now)
What IF they want he also compete in WRC2 for them - only thing we know about Hyundai and WRC2 officially is that Lindholm begin campaign and team CHL will operate this program?Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I think that they bypass that rule by sending them to some local rallies. He will show his speed. If not, it's his last season. Except ''IF'' rally2 cars become thetop and Skoda, Citroen join the grid. Than there's chance. But it's the big IFQuote:
Originally Posted by RS
Mikkelsen still competing in wrc2 by the looks of things.
He will be lucky to get his 4 rally1 drives at this rate, Cyrll will just put Lappi or Sordo in the car instead
Nice words from the Hyundai team principal. He said something like: "The best way to win the rally is with a win on power stage."
Have they put a camera in Lopez’ car today?
Spot on comment, 100% would agree. RMC2024 delivered on every note and majority of people bashing about scoring system. Enjoy the race folks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Yes. In previous stages there was a footage from him. Yesterday as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS