[WRC] Arctic Rally 2021

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Originally Posted by SubaruNorway

Don't they use the push to pass feature on the Rally safe system in WRC? Heard they use it ARA.

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I have heard that it has been discussed for quite a long time, but FIA can't/don't want to put it in the rules somehow..

Gus isnt happy, using Breen's word ha ha

I am not getting splits in WRC.com, is it just me?


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Suninen 2 good splits... please don't do Monte now.

Solberg is incredible.

what, Ogier says tires already gone

Love the attitude and the style of Oliver Solberg. What a driver!

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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

Solberg is incredible.

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And what a funny interview. We need more :D

ai ai ai aiiii ai aiii oi oiiii

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Originally Posted by EstWRC

what, Ogier says tires already gone

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undesteering problems mentioned by Kalle will not help studs

Good job Teemu.

Wow Neuville flew... but next guys even faster !

Just a little tough, Tanak besttime with 0,2 difference

Kalle up to second and Thierry third now, both overhauling Breen.

Ott saying its not a winter rally, instead its a frozen gravel rally.

2 really-really high-speed stages ahead and guys are having already troubles with tires. I smell some drama here.

So far we have had nice rally - have not lost anyone from top-drivers, only Loubet with some troubles.

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Originally Posted by ZequeArgentina

I am not getting splits in WRC.com, is it just me?


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No splits on WRC+ for this stage. I hope they fix it for the next one.

I guess Oiger and Evans are saving the tyres for SS7 and SS8, pushing to overtake the Breen and Solberg ,Is that possible

Suninen pushing like it’s 2017!

The second pass was slower than first

Many drivers with worn tyres. Let's see who will manage and who will overpush, mistakes will be easy in the next stages.

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Originally Posted by Rally Hokkaido

No splits on WRC+ for this stage. I hope they fix it for the next one.

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Splits are working with WRC+ "LIVE MAPS" view.

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Originally Posted by 1988senna

I guess Oiger and Evans are saving the tyres for SS7 and SS8, pushing to overtake the Breen and Solberg ,Is that possible

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both said the tyres were gone

Dont think tyres are gone, they are overheating at the end.

Havent seen worn tyres on the broadcast yet.

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Originally Posted by Rally Hokkaido

No splits on WRC+ for this stage. I hope they fix it for the next one.

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Thanks!!! Long time not writing here!


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Originally Posted by Tauri_J

Dont think tyres are gone, they are overheating at the end.

Havent seen worn tyres on the broadcast yet.

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They need to film the front tires. They go first!

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Originally Posted by Sulland

They need to film the front tires. They go first!

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Obviously and they have shown them too

What happened with Fourmeaux?

Siikakama in the dark, with struggling tyres will be a proper challenge. Can't wait to watch some onboards from that stage - looks class. (Was great to drive in RBR too!)

the first starters will get some daylight

Pictures in twilight look great.

Before rally-action turns in - how many of you decided travel to Lapland after watching this rally?

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Originally Posted by wwbroe

What happened with Fourmeaux?

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Stuck in a ditch, still trying to get out.

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Originally Posted by wwbroe

What happened with Fourmeaux?

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retired (21 - Fourmaux Adrien / Jamoul Renaud): accident in SS 6

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Originally Posted by Mirek

Per, power is a value. It is a value made of torque multiplied by engine speed which means power is always a thing of high rews (high relatively to the used restrictor).

If I say I don't believe that there are big differences in power between the cars I mean they have roughly same value of peak power, which means they can all reach about the same top speed if they had the same drag coefficient and were not limited by gearing. That's simple physics.

However what is important the most is the work the engine can deliver over a certain used RPM range (energy delivered). If you know how power curve looks, this work (or delivered energy) is the area of the graph between the RPM-axis (X-axis) and the power curve in the given RPM range (it's really that simple).

Why is torque important? Because power is torque x engine speed, i.e. when RPM is +/- given by the regulations what you can work on is the torque to achieve as flat power curve as possible (because the largest achievable area is square - when power curve is parallel to the RPM-axis). The most difficult part on that is IMHO to keep the engine efficiency over wide range of RPM, hence why the difference isn't usually in the peak power but in the curve shape.

In simple words. If you put the cars on a drag track and shift ideally you will probably have nearly same finish time for all. But now do the same but shift from 3rd directly to 6th gear and you will see the diffrence between the cars.

On fast events the engine use is closer to the ideal drag track while with more and longer turns (especialy with uneven radius) it gets closer to the second scenario because you need to use much wider RPM range than the ideal one.

I hope it's understandable now.

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I might not understand you correctly because of a bit of a language barrier but i don't think you are correct here. In the theoretical situation you mentioned where the peak power of the cars is same but some have a more flat powercurve and you dragrace them in perfect situations the car with the smoother curve will win. What it means is that the top speed of all cars is the same providing they are not limited by gearing (or are geared the same).
My logic is that the torque of the engine does not matter. What matters is the torque going to the wheels and that can be changed with gears. The amount of torque needed is limited by the grip of the tires so the cars that have a more acute power curve will be geared shorter so the torque in the wheels will be similar as the cars with a smoother power curve. If you have a better engine torque delivery it gives you much more freedom in the gearing and the ones with worse torque delivery need to optimize more. Where it will matter more is the type of stages where the cars will be near their top speed as neither the Ford or Hyundai have been physically limited by lack of power but rather by the rev limiter. So the lack of engine torque will be a bit less important in the more technical and slower rallies where the drivers will be on wide open throttle for shorter amounts of time.

Loving these onboards from the winscreen cameras.

The commentating difference between Mads and the rest is massive, holy fk this is just horrible without him.

Tuohino: ,,I don't have the balls to push much'' :D

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Originally Posted by Essaj

The commentating difference between Mads and the rest is massive, holy fk this is just horrible without him.

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Would be cool to have a stage with Mads and a Co-driver, maybe hos own. To get perspectives both from a driver and a co-driver during same stage.

Oliver been in a snowbank.

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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

Oliver been in a snowbank.

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For good?