just for fun?Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
damn you all are sto stressed here, take a cold drink please
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just for fun?Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
damn you all are sto stressed here, take a cold drink please
Not that bad for Tanak, very good starting position for mexico.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I really hope Neuville will not win. I prefer Ogier winning next 6 years rather than him winning a single championship.
Couldnt blame him for Evans taking a penalty somewhere to give Ogier a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by kamei
2m48 down after the first day is a bit much even for him to fight back.
Lol that's definitely true.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
No chance to fight back ... even for Ogier...it's disappointing weekend so far for him
Tänak vs JWRC SS4 Winner Torn: 10.37.1 for Tänak, 11.41.4 for Torn. Last split Tänak 8,59.2, Torn 10.08.6, which means that for those last unploughed kms it took Tänak 1.37.9 and 1.32.8 for Torn. That is FIVE seconds faster in a FWD R2T.Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
Yes, you should check the results of the last split of unploughed snow from stage 4. But luckily for you Tarmop already made the calculations for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
shame for Lappi, otherwise we would have had 6 drivers in 15 seconds. Still top 5 within 13.2 seconds, look forward to tomorrow... A bit surpised by Latvala, despite road position still a bit out of pace in my opinion based on his skills and experience
i would like to see Neuville champion,just to see Ogier moving at next level the moaning.Priceless!Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Nice rally so far!
Hello new studio presenter. :D
No chance. Any penalty after last stage dont affect starting order.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Ah yes, then we could here the great words of wisdom from Neuville and his educating stories to others, who most definitely haven`t seen difficulties, just pure luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Ogier his road order was bad, yes. And will be again. But he didn't complain when he opened the Friday stages in Monte Carlo pulling out all the mud for the drivers further back. You win some, you loose some. In Mexico he will not have to open.
Also, 2WD cars being faster then WRC cars because it wasn't ploughed. It happened on Monte Carlo on saturday morning too, with Nucita (or the other Abarth) taking a 5th time or something like that.
Awesome day for Neuville, hope he can keep it :)
early check in tomorrow morning?Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Different events and cars are different, expected in Monte.Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
Yes, that is possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
W=WrongQuote:
Originally Posted by Tarmop
Tanak last split = 09:29,4 - 00:30,8 = 08:58,6
Tanak stage time: 10:37,1
Tanak last sector = 10:37,1 - 08:58,6 = 01:38,5
Torn last split = 09:29,4 + 00:30,3 = 09:59,7
Torn stage time: 11:41,4
Torn last sector = 11:41,4 - 09:59,7 = 01:41,7
some doctorat in mathematics in this forum, people have way too much time on their hands...Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
Who?Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
Where did you get Torn`s last split? It was 1.03.1+9.05.1= 10.08.6 according to wrc.comQuote:
Originally Posted by KKS
So unless you can`t present any factual times , it`s still 5 seconds in favour of FWD R2...
https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/ra...ent?id=9841966
Ogier: "If there were norwegians or swedish people opening the road they could have made a different work with the snow"
French speaking guys can confirm if that is a right translation?
Yes exactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Day 1 impressions:
In general as expected, with so much snow on the road and overnight snowfall the first runners were bound to loose a lot.
Positive:
- Paddon finaly back to some speed
- Breen
Negative:
- Meeke (sure road position wasn't best but still he was 2nd slowest after Ogier and Evans with puncture))
- Evans (again the words of Colin Clark about Evans fighting for title this year in any car come to mind)
If the cheating nordics had one of their guys first on the road you can bet your ass they’dve ploughed the damn snow
Translation of what Ogier was saying (without the diplomacy filter!)
My reply:Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
If there were French people opening the road on Friday on Monte surely they could have made a different work with the snow.
Well, he is and was...
As I said before, don't get your hopes up for a fight for the win. Breen and Ostberg will drop back without road advantage to Neuville, and considering Neuville finished day 1 ahead of both of his team mates who had better road position, this is his rally if he keeps it on the road. Would love to be proven wrong though
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from wrc.comQuote:
Originally Posted by Tarmop
http://i.piccy.info/i9/7e0c1ac83bd0e...weden_2018.jpg
We are talking about SS4, you are looking at its re-run, SS7.Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
Frustration is not an emotion but an attitude. An inability to accept things as they are and to hold others accountable for their own satisfaction. And for your simple satisfaction you do not have to ruin the existence of all those around you. When you enter the World Rally Championship you know the rules and accept them. Otherwise you do something else. There's only one who makes a mess.Quote:
Originally Posted by krissucool
FFS, that attitude is rallying on paper! Rules would mean a slight disadvantage, not 3 drivers, all capable of winning the event, were on the podium last year, two of whom have won it several times and one even started it with two stage wins and then BAM, they are 8,9 and 11, loose to a FWD car driven by a person first time in this event, because some part was left unploughed and with small chances of even getting into the top 5. And the biggest issue is...they dare to say, it sucks, they can`t be humans with emotions, they have to lie it`s dandy, just to keep some happy ( and others thinking wth has happened to fast drivers).
What him, and others here fail with that reasoning is that it happened on the Swedish side, not the Norwegian. And it is the Norwegians that would gain from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
Also, none of us knows the rules and laws regarding the snowplough in Norway v Sweden. In no other situation you'll see the same person on both sides of the border.
From a spectator PoV this have been one amazing day with proper snow conditions. Ogier complained the last years as well (even though he had advantage then). He'll never be happy here.
Does anyone have pics of the latter part of SS4? From the sounds of it, the amount of snow is much more than what came down during the night!
Sidenote: We met the plough on SS Svullrya around 0430 local time today :-)
Biggest time losses were this afternoon regardless. That's rallying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarmop
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Umm, well, yes, i was not talking about that specifically but the frustration started before like i mentioned. Probably quite hard to mentally adjust to pushing hard and chasing hundreths. Although those second runs have also been more friedlier, last year podium for example, with small changes, identical to RMC.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
So happy for Breen and Paddon - if anyone, it's those guys who deserve some success for once. And yes, WRC+ All Live has been wonderful today.
So a horrendous day for M-Sport's top two...
But a pretty decent job by Suninen on just his 3rd WRC1 drive.
And good to see a Fiesta R5 leading WRC2.
There's always positives if you look hard enough ! ;)
had to be done
http://i67.tinypic.com/24deftk.jpg
Ogier: "It's been a difficult day, I couldn’t do anything. I tried but I can't be faster. When you lose more than 1.5s/km in the 2nd loop, there must be something wrong somewhere because I don’t think that's my normal rhythm. I'm far, far away, there's no real target."
Nailed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarmop