Don't think there was much wrong at all with Ogier's car on that stage. He's been quicker than Dani all rally so it's logical - like Dani said. Don't think Sordo threw anything away there. That's his level.
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Don't think there was much wrong at all with Ogier's car on that stage. He's been quicker than Dani all rally so it's logical - like Dani said. Don't think Sordo threw anything away there. That's his level.
Congratulations Neuville! Well deserved!
Bad luck repaid for Neuville here thanks to Meeke & Ogier's big car problems.
Good job by him though, no mistakes.
Neuville 26 points
Ogier 22 points
4 Rounds 4 Different cars! What a season!!
at least he didn't bin it:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
He had 2.0sec advantage on struggling Ogier. Its the last stage of the rally, 2nd place at stake. It seemed to me he had already gave up his place at the start of the stage. Just wanted to see more fighting spirit from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Great points by Ogier considering... 2nd o/a and 2nd on PS. Good job as team-mates nowhere.
also from Ogier with a sick Fiesta, getting 2nd both on stage and total!!Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
His car looked fine on that stage, it was the stage before with problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
nowhere because of the car, yes Tänak went out friday but he also lost a lot of time yesterday because of the car problems...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
And Hyundai won in Corsica, where it was the least competitive from all 4 rounds. What an irony...Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
same here...disappointed from Sordo, but as you guys said this weekend, he won't get any better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lead
Again WRC+ doesn't upload the interesting onboards (Meeke SS6 where his engine blows). No explanation given.
The promises they made before the start of the season about uploading all onboards from every stage are basically out the window. Can't even find reference to them on the site. They keep this up and they're going to get sued.
Worthless rally. Good job by neuville.
any guesses for Argentina perhaps?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
what about Meeke?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I do not bother with that Arab team of nobodies.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Fun fact #3:
Out of 6 stages driven at speed, only once wasn't Lefebvre the last WRC car. It happened on SS9 where he was in front of Evans.
Meeke is not an Arab.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
The man from Din un GarnonQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Breen have fighting spirit but, get luck of speed. But Sordo! Being only 2.5sec and driving like a girl to a market!? Agrhhhh. Where fighting spirit? Where cuting? pushing? Looks like here don't care about place he was be.
And big congratz to Nueville! Finally deserved win!
Does anyone know the last time that happend?Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
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1986Quote:
Originally Posted by MTA
Considering he's an tarmac specialist you'd expect him to be able to capitalise on Ogier's problems. Wasn't at one with his car apparently, or has he been struck by the Hirvonen cause (just getting slower for each year)?Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
So JM was 4th o/a and won the PS. How is it possible to win PS with car made in barn with village idiots / dogs?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Hahhhshshhah. You're the biggest dog of all times
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because the others were cruising and they did not risk anything. Even the mini has won a PS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Co-FIN
Love it when you always find out an answer but deny the facts. But prolly its good for your mentality.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
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The minis have won a PS as well.... was mini a good car ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Co-FIN
Toyota scored in top 3 at SS times in 5 stages of 10. With poor car that is really not possible and if we consider your opinion also about shitty drivers they have this really shouldnt be possible. For real if we compare the amount time that teams had to make the '17 cars Toyota should be a lot slower. But they really made a good job. I'm happy for them and for the sport. My guess is that they will sign Mikkelsen for next year..Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
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Overall event performance
Good:
Neuville - push on saturday morning was epic, no visible mistakes (only one "almost spin" loosing 2-3 secs), though impossible to say if he would have defended against Ogier on saturday afternoon
Breen - really great, even without considering the huge difference in experience vs Latvala and Sordo
Citroen - I would say this was first time they have shown consistent good performance this season
Toyota - imo, a bit of a surprise with relatively good times (considering the drivers)
Neutral:
Meeke - fast on friday but he was fast also last year with DS3 (between the crashes), loosing time on saturday so not sure he would have held it all the way tbh.
Ogier - turning into a bit of Latvala with the constant setup changes and inconsistencies, strange since he had long test before. Shown speed on saturday afternoon. Very good points for WC though.
Tanak - kind of standard pace on tarmac even without the problems.
Latvala - obviously difficult to judge with Toyota, but rest was pretty much the normal "confidence-no confidence-confindence-no confidence"
Sordo - the usual, " safely" 3-4 on tarmac
Hyundai - surprisingly they weren't clearly the fastest car like the previous rallies, specially strange since slower and twisty sections seemed to suit them before
Bad:
Ford reliability - again/still problems with one of the cars every other stage
Lefevbre - plenty comments on him already, home rally, 3rd in C3 still constantly slowest and crashing, needs more time in R5 or DS3?
Hanninen - also plenty of comments, two crashes (last one cost 2 manu points when nothing was at stake), back to where he was last time in WRC as well as whole this season. Some fast stages and crashes all the time.
Evans - this is the rally he made the best results so far in his career, and there was not a single time that gave some hope, even with the unknown tire factor it's imo quite a disappointment.
Paddon - New co-driver and all that, but still clearly outclassed by Breen after 2.5 season in WRC. So far real disappointment this season. (yes, Monte can have something to do with it)
Paddon still had John in this rally.
Paddon didn't have the new co-driver yet in Corsica.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
edit: late
That is a poor example, if my memory serves me well the Mini won a powerstage because of favorable conditions (it rained for the following top cars).Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Also, numerous sources claimed the Mini had one of the best chassis out there.
JWRC watch. Solans wins. Folb lost second to Ciamin on the final stage - dropping almost 4mins with a transmission issue. But due to general JWRC carnage and massive gaps he was able to hang on to third.
Lost time on saturday? He extended his lead over ogier on first stage on sat morn and his engine let go a mile or so before end of the second stage on sat morning and even then he only lost 15 seconds or so on that stage with the engine kicking itQuote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Lost to Neuville who was the eventual rally winner. Was even behind Hanninen of all people. Sure Ogier had bad stage, but remember that there are no splits in car now. So not like he was controlling anything.
He lost 8 seconds to a man that was nearly 30 seconds behind him at the start of that stage was hardly a dramatic loss of time was it
Typical N.O.T answer: they won by default because nobody else tried.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
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That mknight resume is funny as hell