Meeke not restarting today, game over.Quote:
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Meeke not restarting today, game over.Quote:
Originally Posted by cosmin_sb
He was sent to test the durability of the roof skin lolQuote:
Originally Posted by cosmin_sb
game over for both him & the team, hard to see them bounce back from last place in the champ. Meeke himself said, they will continue to develop the car for next year, hopefully they'll bring Mikkelsen (& replace Lefebvre) to help them regain at least one of the titles next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
However, I am not sure anymore if it is still game over, maybe I was wrong, initial news was that no more start, but it is not confirmed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Edit: OK! He is not in the start list, so, It was right.
Check the start list for today.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
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rally-base is showing this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
That's a bit late I think.Quote:
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As usual wrc.com can't be trusted.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
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Well I didn't know they have it. Must be something new this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
The front left of that C3 doesn't look very nice.
The fall of Citroen is quite impressive tbh, from dominating for 10 years to not being able to compete with VW to now being clearly last in manufacturers even against newcomer Toyota who has basically 1 driver.
At least the C3 doesn't seem far back in terms of speed, one then has to question their driver policy.
Yeah that policy of having the best driver in the world in their car really did work I guess. Their new policy of not having that = less successful.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
In fairness they did basically give up on the WRC for a few years ('14/'15/'16).
Also '13, transition year towards the WTCC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
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They truly deserve all that misery after they expelled Ogier.
Maybe. You don't think they thought they were going to win the title with Hirvonen going into that season?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Still makes me laugh that VW's entire stated aim for 2013 was to 'fight for podiums'.
And then Citroen spend most of 2016 preparing for this year. Isn't working out very well.
After VW quit they could push hard for Ogier, tbh it didn't seem they were that much interested. Certainly from Matton's comments, and they were not interested at all in the other two.
Then again just two days ago I could read on this very thread how Meeke is the fastest driver in WRC, oh well.
To be fair... They haven't really had a great driver for a while. Loeb left and they only got Hirvonen who was on his way out both in form and in sprit.
There were hopes that Meeke had stopped crashing but those have been thoroughly crushed.
i said i wasn't going to watch Kris for the remainder of the season. Such a bloody shame again- looks like they were both ok though. If he's out of contract at the end of this season, unfortunately I think it's 'party over'.
Anyone predict any national UK hotshots coming behind these boys?
Agree, but it again goes down to november last year. Link to the comments at that time:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report...818.1478205931
Matton told Autosport: "I have the driver line-up for next year."
"All I will say is that if Sebastien Ogier gives me a call I will answer and we will have a chat, but there's no question about changing my driver line-up for next season."
"I would not say I would not take the call from Jari-Matti Latvala or Andreas Mikkelsen, of course I will - I am a polite guy!
"But the story is different for them: they are not French and they don't have the world title."
Fastest no, but one of the trio Ogier, him & Neuville. However his problem is not the speed, he has to manage it somehow though, even risking to be slightly slower, that would pay off much more than pure speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Craig Breen if he can get his car intact for the remainder of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by bassist
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I think Ogier showed himself the door when he says it's justice in the sport when his team mate has a puncture :pQuote:
Originally Posted by A FONDO
I meant those outside the ranks of WRC currently.eg someone like Osian Pryce.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
this sounded so EGO to me back then and sounds even more now and man how it hurts them...they should have cancelled Lefebvres contract and got Latvala or Mikkelsen...Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Meeke will never get consistent, he just doesnt seem to learn but at least he is fast. Already before the rally he told Becsy in an interview that he will go flat out and i was like this isnt ending well. This isnt a rally where you go flat out all the time and now to crash 2 times in a rally.
Breen is great talent and future and he is rightfully in the team.
But they need someone instead of Lefebvre and they need someone fast.
AAAhh the french... if they were not french they would be awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
(just kidding french friends :) Matton is belgian)
I was almost as much shocked about the part where he is not really that interested in Ogier.
Anyway at that point Breen and Lefevbre seemed pretty evenly matched.
I totaly agree whit your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Lefebvre out, Mikkelsen in. Breen getting more expieriance for all wrc rounds, could mean he'll be a victory contender in 2018.
I think Neuville can be as fast as Meeke (was in the past) here in Argentinia, but he's doing whats needed here it seems. Driving fast, but not on the limit, would be cool if he can win this one! (Evans would be a great winner also)
They chose their drivers themselves And it's all fair to blame their management for bringing the team to the situation in which it is now.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
These comments don't look great with the benefit of hindsight. To Matton's credit I'd prefer he was loyal to his contracted drivers. To sign them up on two-year deals and immediately bin one of them off to accommodate Ogier might have made cold business sense - but sometimes you need to be about more than that. For sure he'd have been criticised if he'd done that too. So you can't win.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Only real criticism you can aim to Citroen is not taking a Suninen or a Tidemand at the time. Or fighting harder for Lappi and Evans. Maybe two-year deals for Breen/Lefebvre were over generous? Time will tell. But from then on Citroen were scrambling to sort out three cars (again their conservative mistake). Then you have a rich backer who wants a shot in the fourth car when it arrives (Al Qassimi). Difficult situation for them.
Also difficult to defend Meeke. He's raised his level but the crashes have remained. All I'll say is Citroen's general situation would have been a lot worse if not for him, his speed and his wins.
wow
holy shit!
Meeke has to bent from rallying really.
There is thick line being fast and being stupid.
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Is that the 'off'???Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Need to see that video. Looks like it's been dropped out of a helicopter!
Good job the roll cage was ok after his first crash. Shows why its so important to be checked properly.
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So many possible Power Stage winners today, basically anyone still running could take 5 points