VW in the WRC until 2019
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114383
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VW in the WRC until 2019
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114383
Good news.
As long as they don’t start asking to turn the sport into Rally X..
and the championship title goes to: Seb! (for 16 years in a row!) :-D
I think it's great that they've committed for so long, just hope Jost Capito doesn't try to change the sport too much.
Here's a video a put together of the Polo R WRC in action on 4 different rallies in 2013/14
http://youtu.be/h9feNODYiwk
My guess is that Jost got his way over the format and that he has knowlede that a worthy rival manufacturer will also join the series. By that I mean Toyota, because even though the final podium wasnt a VW lock out just look at how many stages were a VW 1,2,3 last weekend.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114400
I liked this one:
Ostberg, who scored his best result with Citroen in finishing second in Italy, said: "I'm fine with my position in the championship. And it's part of the game, where you start on a rally.
"Ogier talks about it all the time. Well, you [Ogier] are the fastest in the world; you can go first: f*** off!"
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes...abt/index.html
and Brazil and China again being postponed
Translated with Google:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
"I see myself as a hardcore rally fan and we do not want any of them lose," Capito said. "But I think that the hardcore fans have to be a little more open and interested should be in mind that more people excited about the sport. If the public's interest increases, then also increases the interest of manufacturers in this sport because they see that they can sell on the World Rally Championship their cars. If so are there more producers, it's also better for the hardcore fans because they see more cars and drivers. "
Go home, Jost...
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
I wish Capito would just fuck off.
I dont know if Capito is really so stupid or he is trying to show how big boss he is and what else he can say/do...
If You believe that one of the worlds largest car manufacturers, when choosing a person to run one of its bigget and most important marketing and branding campaigns, hires a person that is "stupid" , then I think You are wrong.
I think that to call Jost Capito stupid would miss the mark by a huge margin.
There are probably a lot of people on this forum that know the details of his exploits a lot better than I do, and talked to him more often than I have (I have met him only once), but if You look at his track record You cant be anything but impressed of what he has achieved. This both in motorsports, but also in regular car manufacture, as the boss of Fords ST- and RS-products. It was Capito - and his team - that developed Ford ST, and RS to strong performance brands in the modern world (yes, I know that RS carries a heritatge.)
When talks are made about changes to the WRC, You also must remember where Jost Capito is coming from. He has to defend Volkswagens spending with how much media attantion and brand building this offers, against other activities they could spend their marketing budget on. If he cant defend or deliver Return On Investment, Volkswagen is out of WRC by morning.
The fact that there are curently so few manufacturers in the WRC, is a testament to how most manufacturers rate the value of competing in the championship.
If the sport of WRC should be a sport taath attracts manufacturers with big budgets, wich then again ables drivers, engineers etc to live of this sport, the marketing and branding return must be improved.
Jost Capito is a very strong ambassador for the WRC, both towards the board at Volkswagen, and towards the media etc. Its in his best interest that this sport grows as popular as possible. He has showed earlier with different projects that he knows a thing or two about marketing/brand building etc, so I think it is a bit ignorant to rule him out before he is even given a chance.
If Jost Capito reaches his aim of improving the broadcatsing, media coverage, brand value etc, we all win. This is because this will then attract more manufacturers, they will need more drivers, more mechanics, engineers etc, and this in turn will make our whole sport bigger.
If the shootout that is not a shootout is put in effect, I my self do not know if this will work or not, but I do know that big changes has to be made to the promoting of the sport to make it more attractive for more manufacturers. The WRC has had a steady decline in popularity, and I think that a change has got to come, and that we should dare to try different things in the hope of finding the magic ingredient.
I think changes like this would affect how we has hard core rally nerds view the sport only a small extent.
thats your answer Pluto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lundefaret
but if he knows the right way to show,or he will destroy wrc, it is another talk.
Yes, nice words from Ludefaret. I have never talked with Capito, but I am following him lot of years. He has made a big success at Ford, for sure. But all the time he is fighting only about HIS interest. And interest of HIS employee. For him (and it looks like also lot of other people at the top position) is not important success or rallysport or bright view to the future of this sport, they are interested mainly about their money. And that is the biggest problem, that is why rallysport is where it is...
VW are no different to any other Manufacturer; they want a Return on Investment. And the best way to achieve this through the various media; not just TV. Just what type of coverage are they expecting? All non F1 series would like more coverage; and there is a battle between them all to be 2nd after F1. At the moment the series which seems to be attracting more Manufacturers is the WEC - yet doesn't have great TV deals; MotorsTV and Eurosport...niche channels. So, what are the WRC manufacturers wanting?
I can't think of many sports which have changed so much over the years as the WRC - and yet still they meddle. F1 is still 1h30-45mins, Sportscars still has 6, 12, 24 hour races; yet the WRC gas chopped the mileage and number of days dramatically - and they're still not happy. What happens if this 'shoot out' doesn't work? What is the next hare brained scheme?
With the the route for RallyGB announced yesterday - compare an old RAC Rally to RallyGB; and that tells you everything about the modern WRC. Just 212 stage miles, with 25 miles on the final day. It's just another gravel Rally - I know we can't go back; but we surely can have a happy medium on some events? It appears not.
I still don't think there's a better sight in Motorsport than a Rallycar full chat in the gloom, brakes still glowing, spotlights lighting up the sky/ forest.....
But the WRC is slowly losing its attraction for me, sadly.
I agree with AndyRAC. Most of decisions during last year are not helping the rallysport, they are killing it. They want to bring new spectators to this sport, but they are doing it bad way, which is not interesting for them. And what is worse, they are loosing the old spectators...
First of all they have to change the promoter all together, the guys have no clue how to produce a nice and interesting show.
If I was a viewer unfamiliar with WRC and browsing the TV channels and bump onto a WRC shows, there was no way I was going to like what I see. Their program is totally boring and lacks any true excitement (plenty of fake excitement by commentators...) to attract new spectators. Even I find it hard to watch the sport I love...
I cant see how all these changes will make something magically click together and attract new spectators.
Crapito didnt have a clue about performance cars at Ford as anyhting he brought out was wheel scambling front wheel drive he never produced a proper 4WD RS Ford
Now he also is the same clueless in WRC
If this stupid shootout comes into WRC that will make it a total joke!!!!
Also official site. Last rally couldn't find results on home page but could find radio or stream from service. What's more important, results or something else...Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan
the downhill spiral started with the brilliant idea (when DR came to power I believe) to restrict press access dramatically for small time journalists. I remember friends in press saying how hard it had become to be accredited. Same for local TV stations, no more access unless big bucks on the table... same for local radios...
and here we are nowadays with this pseudo producer who dreams of making millions with pay TV who might as well be doing videos on a circus show
today it's more interesting to follow a rally on a forum like this one where you can find links from dozens of private people on location who post tweets, pics and videos... thank god for internet
..... and also read news and info from well - informed and knowledgeable peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by Antony Warmbold
Radical World Rally Championship revamp to go ahead in 2015:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114425
this will be a make it or brake it moment for WRC next year...Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan
http://www.rally.it/toyota-test-in-sardegna/ i hope when they come back they'll have this livery.
WRC RiP....
Run and promoted by idiots.....
likeQuote:
Originally Posted by andyrac
That article is simply unbelievable. Why does Capito get to decide the future of the sport? If this really does go ahead, and I can't believe I am saying this, the WRC will be finished for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan
for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
No, this isn't WRC or rallying anymore, it's a farce.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
I'm so mad at what Capito said, "Hardcore rally fans should be more open minded and should be happy that more fans will join the WRC", no I don't care Mr. Capito, I don't care if there are 10 manufacturers and millions of fans if it isn't the WRC anymore, it's another sport. It's like "Hey, I've got an idea to make tennis more popular, let's turn it into volleyball! Hardcore tennis fans should be happy!" (first two sports that cam to my mind and obviously a paradox, but still).
Rant over. I'll try to enjoy Le Mans this weekend before VW enters and turns also that into a farce.
I'm not judging this yet... Let's see how this will work out next year. I'm curious to see how this will play out in reality (team orders for example).
Points being awarded for every day of competition is a good addition.
If Capito thinks that hardcore fans are not needed I think he can continue playing whatever he likes without my attendance. Good bye WRC. I'm going to stick with ERC.
"This can make it more attractive - we want the cars close together and fighting - and we need to know we can sell the television."
It's funny how they still think they will "sell the television"...
Why sell the TV? Who wants to sell the TV? --> A handful of greedy people who failed at making it in Formula One?
Manufacturers: You want return on investment? You want spectators? You want audience? You want readers for your press? You want to sell your cars to future fans of WRC?
ok, open up the rallies to all local and intl press and tv and radio for free, then wait a little....
I think you haven't read carefully the article.wilson and nandan also commend the new format.it is what all teams want!Quote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
R.I.P WRC .
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antony Warmbold
+100000000000000Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
And bye bye wrc,
Good morning ERC!
It’s time for Mr. Todt to act! Even if there’s unanimity between manufacturers on this foolish plan he simply has to stop it and put some order in the house!Quote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
If RB/MH doesn’t know how to promote THIS sport and needs to sort out a ridicule version of it, FIA is entitled to end their contract and, once for all, give WRC promotion to Eurosport – they’ve already show they can do it properly by respecting rally’s nature!
Perhaps RBMH and the manufacturers, well Capito, Nandan and Wilson, (note Citroen not mentioned) think this is a better idea at building interest in wrc, maybe they missed the obvioys alternative, get fans to text into wrc.com at £1 or €1 per text who they think is fastest or more spectacular on the stage they were watching. Just think of the drama if a text vote and all if those text charges going to the promoter. ;-)
Meanwhile in IMG 's world we have big grids if 600bhp supercars driven by the likes of Petter, Villeneuve, Ekstrom, and allegedly Wurz and Button,......