Faster than Bertelli anyway...Quote:
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Faster than Bertelli anyway...Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
And better grip than DMACK
Am I the only one who struggle to understand what Paddon says? New zeland accent is very difficult to understand unless you know english fluently which I don't unfortunately.
Wait till you have to understand some deep Irish or Scottish accents. First question that pops into your head is "they are speaking in English, right?"Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
You don't miss anything, he talks like a PR robot. I doubt he uses more than 100 different words in his public speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
:D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Franky
I've been 4 months in Galway and I agree with you, deep irish accent is not english :D :D That's why I didn't speak it fluently after that period.
It is a South Island, NZ rural accent. Speech to speech pocket electronic translators are becoming more common/Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
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Originally Posted by AL14
I don't have any trouble understanding it! :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeakiwi
(I did go to school with him though)
Really?? Tell us about him!Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
What part of Galway? I cant be far away :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Our west of Ireland accent can be hard to understand at times, apparently we talk too fast
I was 2 years ahead and just an acquaintance really, not a close friend or anything. Nice guy though, the way he comes across in interviews etc is pretty much just how he is - a generally down to earth good sort.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Galway city. Glean Darà neighboorhood. I had a great time there, love IrelandQuote:
Originally Posted by Jewy46
I know it well, a nice part of the city. I am from a town called Headford, only 15 minutes from Galway, shows the world is a small placeQuote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Glad to hear you enjoyed your time here :D
Did you ever go to see the Galway International Rally that takes place in February?
Unfortunately I was there during summer months. The only race I saw was the horse week (or something with the similar name) due to the job I had there. You guys go mad for horses races :D :D, there were a lot of people in the city also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jewy46
By the way those irish roads should be great for a proper rally, I'm sure that event is a very good one. I will come back for sure one day and the rally could be a nice excuse to do it.
You would be more than welcome, our roads are fantastic for rallying. We are lucky in this regard..... im very happy to say I was competing in the Galway International Rally myself just 2 weeks ago :D great event!Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
If you ever want to visit for the rally, let me know! Id be happy to let you stay here
Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jewy46
I missed the C3 WRC Live videos from Citroen Racing over the weekend. Interesting to watch them now the rally is over, particularly Kris's comments on his Vargasen off https://www.facebook.com/citroenraci...4365340437057/
Having travelled to many countries where English is not their first language is still amazes me that the hardest country in the world to understand the spoken English is in many pats of EnglandQuote:
Originally Posted by Franky
fun, fun, fun... unbelievable - https://youtu.be/NtGTZCZ5L3U
Elfyn Evans on a snowy Monte...
PSA has bought Opel? I didn't know they were going to do it!
And Vauxhall in the UK...Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
French ownership is a worrying move for the factories here, especially my local plant making the Astra. :disturb:
Barman can you please play Ironmaiden's song 6 6 6 and dedicate it to the MSport drivers Tanak, Ogier & Evans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxnN05vOuSM
If anyone is unsure why this particular song have a look at stage wins by driver so far this season
better order a round of Trooper Ale, while your at it. great song, excellent brewQuote:
Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan
Promotion before sport - is this the way for the WRC ?
http://www.rallysportmag.com.au/home...ay-for-the-wrc
That is a very nice discussion to take.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I work in the marketing industry so I have also interest in these kind of dynamics.
But I would not take it like the author of the article did. I'm very much convinced that there is not such contrast between "promotion" and "sport".
I don't think that for the sake of promotion you have to sacrifice the sport. This is a leitmotiv when it comes to rally and I think it is one of the big mistake of the sport.
From one side (the promoters), there is the need to sacrifice the sport for the promotion because rally is a bad format for nowadays media.
From the other side, people thinks that driving 500km away and risking to lose 2 stages is a good achievement in a promotion point of view, but it's bad for the sport because at the end 2 stages have been sacrified.
In my opinion they are both wrong.
The need N1 for a good promotion is a good product! And a rally 70km shorter is not as good as the original plan! They have not sacrified a rally for the promotion, both the product and the promotion have been damaged from that hitch.
Rally is spectacular as it is and it is IDEAL to promote with new media!
Wake up promoters! People are all the time with a smartphone in their hands, something going on all day fits perfectly with our culture!
Also, the fact that it is different from other sports that have a single event of max 2 hours, apparently better to broadcast and promote, is fucking good. Rule N1 of marketing is to find differentiators of products, what makes them unique and use them to show people their value.
This is why I always feel the rage growing inside me when I see the kind of promotion WRC has. Although they have reached some very good achievement (I'm not that negative, they've done some good job), I think that still, a lot of potential is still unused and the reason is basically what I've written up here. (imho)
Would like to hear your opinions about this, not just how it should be promoted (we have talked a lot of time about it), but about the relationship between promotion and sport. Do they have to be in contrast all the time?
Beer break.
Delecour showing how to turn the wheel in a rally car using a pot cover.
https://www.facebook.com/22087739466...3229796432932/
(They laugh sometimes but my poor french didn't help me to understan why :) )
I must admit that waaay back when I got into rallying, it was first through seeing TV highlights. Then it was being able to attend a world rally (1983 RAC, then also '84,85 & 86) as it had numerous local stages at venues such as stately homes, race circuits and even safari parks !
I think these are still the way to grow WRC... get it seen (although now more online than TV) and also take the rally closer to the cities (but not in cities) using decent stages, not these nasty SSS we have now.
My first event attending in rallying was Midnight Sun Rally (Midnattssolsrallyt in swedish) back in 1961. Believe it or not - last stage was a Mickey Mouse stage held on a horsetrack outside Stockholm (Ulriksdals travbana för dem som är tillräckligt gamla att minnas old Stockholm).
However my father told me that on a real stage it was way more exciting and that turned my interset on, being only seven years old. Had to wait until the year after and same event which then passed my new home north of Stockholm and local hero Bengt Söderström won in a BMC Cooper S.
I always wonder how much the manufacturers get from WRC rallying... I mean how many extra sales from the money the spend and the exposure they get ?
Citroen for example, after all those years of Loeb-led success, did they increase sales much through that time ?
Well, it's something you can't really measure, maybe it's better that way... ;)
just for reference,but its psa group through the years,couldnt find citroen only.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
http://www.autozine.org/Manufacturer/France/PSA.html
Very nice numbers. No 2008 crisis for them! I bet that's a better curve than other manufacturersQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
’08 recession effects appeared a bit later in Europe. If you see those numbers, sales decline started in 2011 and there’s a huge drop in 2012 (the years Pug leaved LeMans and Ford quit WRC) and only last year they’ve managed to get over 3M units again.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
About motorsport effect on sales: they surely happen in a positive way, even if it’s hard to quantify, but the first purpose for manus to get involved is the brand image they want to reflect on costumers.
The Quattro wasn’t a best seller but it did wonders for Audi image all over the world. The opposite can be said about Lancia; from the day Fiat decided to leave WRC, Lancia brand went into severe crisis.
Biggest surprise to me was Toyota return to WRC; despite their focus on Hybrid cars (and LM/WEC involvement), they were brave enough to enter a series that still doesn’t embrace cleaner tech but is, by far, the most exciting and demanding motorsport form any car maker can compete. Well done Toyota!
Promoting WRC is very, very difficult. Common people want to see stunts, crashes, action, etc. Trying to convince them what they see on TV doesn't affects the final result at the and of the season is impossible task. First they must understand the sport itself, but that is also difficult in our dynamic lives, it is not the same with rally, rally is about endurance, not stunts. Ogier is very unatractive driver for the common people as he almost never crashes, so they wonder why should bother to watch this "boring" sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
However, I think RBMH are making big step forward with their (free) coverage on RedBull TV with lot of media/social options, check it out.
I remember back in 2003-04, when Petter Solberg won, subaru raised theire sales with 40prc in Norway.
I don't know the numbers for europe, but they probably got more sales there to?
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Remember people like to watch nascar and soccer, boring like hell both of them, i fint know what they are waiting for in soccer, but in nascar they ONLY wait to see someone hit the wall.
Probably same people woting for trump and his european fellows......
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are you like that in real life as well ?? you want numbers to show the correlation between the WRC and sales ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
http://i.imgur.com/oqp1O2q.jpg
That's interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
I knew about 1 year gap to see effects in an economic environment after a certain change.
Maybe in the automotive industry it's different. Yes there is a drop in 2012. (or was it Loeb announcing the retirement? :) I'm kidding )
Audi quattro was 2nd most expensive car in Finland at early 80´s, you can´t compare it to "normal" cars. (most expensive was Mercedes 560 SEC)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power