Ostberg cant put pressure to Ogier even if he finishes all rallies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
You cant push Ogier when you are minutes behind him at every rally.
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Ostberg cant put pressure to Ogier even if he finishes all rallies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
You cant push Ogier when you are minutes behind him at every rally.
Who can put pressure on Ogier in championship terms (while driving VW)?! Hardly anyone...
Even Kubica's debates lasted less...Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
Are you deliberately misunderstanding this point ? I said THE OTHER DRIVERS.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
IF THE OTHER DRIVERS IN THE FACTORY TEAMS DROVE MORE CONSISTENTLY THEY COULD PRESSURE VW MORE.
Ostberg is just an example of how someone makes the best of his ability and circumstances by being consistent.
you cant understant that drivers like Ostberg that collect points being minutes from leader cant put pressure to Ogier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Try to understant that.
Ogier will feel pressure when you push him taking stages/rallies.Thats a pressure for him.And that pressure Ostberg cant show to Ogier.
Not by finishing 3 minutes behind.
Same applies if the name of driver is Ostberg, or whatever you want.
its a pitty that you havent understant what you watching so many years.
till now we have seen that only Meeke is fast enough to put some pressure on him,but not at championship terms.He is fast at asphalt too,something Paddon till now we havent see his speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
While driving VW? Any doubt that Ogier dominates in VW, Ford, Hyundai,....? He is the best driver. Car not so importantQuote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Don't waste your time getting wound up. His opinions "are facts", don't you know....Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
give me an example how an Ostberg type driver can put pressure in a driver like Ogier.Quote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
For you information you are debating with a guy who did not enjoy paddons victory in Argentina because the Koreans eat dogs and Hyundai is a multinational company... good luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Some people should be left alone fighting their demons, life is hard for them already no need to add insult to injury.
In other news.... M-Sport to have a new Fiesta for 2017. Still no car for them to build or test.. What are we thinking here? Winning car in 2017 and beyond?
No... They don't have the budget.
They probably tests solutions in old car, atleast they should.
When is the new car presented?
Watching the highlights package on TV in the weekend I notice Mikkelsen is now second in the championship. And managed to overhaul and stay in front of Ogier in the last day of Portugal on much more even footing. Hopefully this is a good sign for the future, if he can fight with Ogier some of the time and keep it on the road, it can only be good for increasing the spectacle and making the outcome of events less predictable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Ogier had punctures, but still excellent drive of Mikkelsen nonetheless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munkvy
Mikkelsen is a nice guy but I don't think he has much more in the pocket anymore...Quote:
Originally Posted by Munkvy
Meh, only performed when the heat was off. He will be nowhere when the tarmac comes around. I have said before that Ostberg would get the same results in a VW. Andreas is not champ material.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Nah ostberg would still b havin downshift problems :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
2017 Fiesta road-car image
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CplJPrVXEAAoixG.jpg:large
“The current Fiesta has been so successful,” one Ford insider told Autocar, “that it has earned the right to evolve.”
Like the current car, the new Fiesta will be based on Ford’s Global B platform, also used in a simpler form for the Ka+. That means the new Fiesta will be very similar in overall length and wheelbase to the existing car, although there is talk of slightly wider tracks.
Clues to chassis spec came to life with the current Fiesta ST, when suspension engineers decided the twist beam rear suspension needed retooling to preserve handling balance and improve ride comfort. But the investment needed was not forthcoming until Ford committed to using familiar but improved components in the next-generation car.
So the new Fiesta will have a developed version of the outgoing model’s platform, complete with tuned but fundamentally unaltered MacPherson strut front suspension, rack and pinion steering and a twist beam rear end. Although manufacturers such as Renault have dropped three-doors from their supermini ranges, the new Fiesta will continue in three-door and five-door versions.
Scoop photographs show a car with exterior styling reminiscent of the outgoing model’s but with a wider and more grown-up look brought by extra width, a lower bonnet, thinner headlights and horizontal tail-lights to replace the current vertical affairs. Ford hopes no current owner will be put off by the new look.
That's only photoshop, not the real car. Is even written in the Autocar article.
I know, that's why I said 'image', but it gives a clue to the cars probable look which is evolutionary. Same with the chassis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Maybe this is why M-Sport aren't worried about having the 2017 Fiesta yet, as it will be very similar to the previous one...
That's the current one with plastic bits on it!
LoL!
That’s one of the test mules that have been rolling alongside the pre series camouflaged model.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-et7BJYcp-...d-Fiesta-4.jpg
Photo: http://www.carscoops.com/2016/06/new...ooped-for.html
Btw, for being homologated in January as a WRC, when it’ll be expectable that Ford starts the series model production?
All (except Hyundai) have same problem: Production not started yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
C3 is released but new Fiesta, new Polo and new Yaris will be probably at Paris Autoexpo end of september / beginning october.
Anyone knows how strict the rules about homologation are, especially with evolution/changes of parts after the first homologation? If they are as strict as now, I could imagine some manufacturer would homologate the current model as a new WRC and drive it for half a year before homologating the new one...
...just like Hyundai did with the i20...Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
So the test cars of Polo and Yaris are testing the aero on the current cars even though the new road car will have a different bodyshell..Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
And Hyundai havent even started 2017 yet ?
At least Citroen have the new C3 to work on.
Saw a photo today claiming to be the 2017 Hyundai testing, but not verified.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Hyundai released images yesterday of the car. Although like most of the others it just seems to be a mule.Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
https://twitter.com/HMSGOfficial?lang=en
In WTCC for season 2015 FIA alowed Lada to use Lada VESTA WTCC from start of season even when production of series model started at the end of year 2015. Maybe FIA will allow something similar to WRC manufacturers.
SM-G930F
Probably I'm wrong, but I believe that a manu can only homologate one WRC car per year.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Looking at the homologation history http://www.fia.com/regulation/category/760 (General - 2016 Complete List of Homologated Vehicles with Extensions) for Ford and Citroen the second homologation was 2014, three years after initial homologation in 2011. VW joined 2013 and had yet to homologate the SUPER 2000 1.6 TURBO kit + WRC kit variant (WR). All the first homologations between 2011-2013 have the homologation number 100/01.
Hyundai joined at the beginning of 2014 and now the homologation was called VARIANTE KIT WRC. Also Citroen, Ford and VW made new homologations (homologation number 200/01).
Citroen and Ford made a VARIANTE KIT WRC 2015 homologation at the beginning of 2015 and Hyundai at the beginning of 2016 (homologation number 300/01). VW don’t have a VARIANTE KIT WRC 2015 homologation. I don’t know any explanations for the WRC 2015 homologations.
I don’t remember if it was from the beginning of 2014 or 2015 when no S2000 kit homologations had to be made anymore. By the homologation name it was from 2014. The manufacturers also agreed to freeze the homologation once but was that 2014 or 2015, I don’t remember.
Mitsubishi used in the past the Evolution of the Type (ET) homologation for evo6 and evo6TM. Evo5, evo6 and evo6TM all have the same basic group A homologation number (A5585).
http://www.ralliart.com/eGRN/homologation.html
A correction to what I said earlier. Also VW have a WRC 2015 homologation.
First pic of the 3 door Fiesta. Ford won’t be at Paris Motor Show, so probably they’ll launch the new model in Detroit MS, a couple of weeks before MC.
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-d90q0BrGz...Door-spy-9.jpg
Photo: http://www.carscoops.com/2016/08/all...makes-spy.html
Also a note on the new Polo, mentioned to debut only on 2017 second half…
http://www.carscoops.com/2016/08/201...e-much-in.html
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/in...ort-rally-team an article about M-Sport expansion plans: 'The exciting future of the M-Sport rally team'
Not going to happen, would look great... and a the Focus would be a real RS...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrWDRmwVUAUTOHQ.jpg:large
Yeah it's a real shame to have an actual 4WD Focus RS hit the streets and no WRC variant to shout about. Will have to make do with WRX, which is probably a pretty decent representation of what it would have looked like.
What they should do is make a proper Fiesta RS... You need to understand that no car of these dimensions will be considered for world rally cars anymore. ;)