Serderidis wrecked his car during a test... Possibly, they wont repair the car anymore??
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Serderidis wrecked his car during a test... Possibly, they wont repair the car anymore??
Marco Tempestini will run with Fiesta R5 at Arad Rally, 6th round in the Romanian championship.
Will be interessting to see if the Fiesta will be the Fiat Grande Punto of the R5s, being first out!
Yes, Malcolm is obviously doing well now with sales but it might backfire in the long term.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Presume there are similar restrictions on homologation to the S2000?
There are proper restrictions on homologation for R5's.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Only 3 changes are permitted (afaik) after homologation meaning that if the 208/DS3 is quicker there'll be very little opportunity for M-Sport to recover the difference
Martin Koci tested the Fiesta R5: Test Ford Fiesta R5, Martin Ko
Just a quick thought: Could Skoda put in 4 similar corners when it comes to suspension, to the current Fabia + some other bits and pieces to get it according to R5 and homologate that, and the homologate a complete new car using the new platform in 2015 or is that forbidden somewhere?
They will not homologate R5 untill Fabia III comes out. Don't waste time speculating.
Ok, but it was not meant as speculation, just trying to understand the limits within the regulations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Lets take another example; Proton take their current S2000 and changes it to a R5, and homologate 1st jan 14. 2015 the prod mod comes out in a completely new form, can they homologate this one in 2015?
JM Racing car which replaces the one Fabia sold to France.
Apparently Peugeot postponed homologation of the 208 T16 to january 2014 in order to have same possibilities as the sister car Citroën DS3 "R5" about new mechanical parts rules :confused:
I think the homologation of DS3 would still be 3 months after 208 T16...so it means 1st March 2014.
I thought it was postponed to 1st January already several months a go. As far as I heard DS3 shall be mechanically identical car so it can be theoretically homologated together with 208 without problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
Amazing.
You need 10 useless posts before you can spam us with your links? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Renuta
Bad quality video of Fabia 1.6T on gravel (Kopecký driving): Å*koda Fabia R5 turbo - Kopecký - Dressler - YouTube
First win for Fiesta R5 in Ukraine: eWRC-results.com - results Aleksandrov Rally 2013
Yeah, fierce competition with Mini. Good though :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tolis
Better result than that he had with Skoda.
I would put my money on this car against current S2000 (I'm not sure for 1.6T). Just seems it is kind of new for the drivers I've watched so far. Well in Finland Ketomaa showed some potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
It sounds better than the other two at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Impressed they have tested on both surfaces already. Soon they will surpass the Fiesta R5 testing mileage maybe :D
Which care is more powerful? Or both of them are more or less equal?Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
I would say, if the car is "only" as fast as a Mini RRC, they have a problem...
better video about r5 skoda gravel test:
Å*koda Fabia R5 1,6Turbo - YouTube
Looks nearly ready :D Shame the bodyshell is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarriK
nice sounding! cant wait to see it at rallies.
Is it really R5 spec or just a S2000 Fabia evo with a 1.6T R5 spec engine? I guess the engine is not the only difference between S2000 N/A and R5
Nobody would tell You what is already R5 spec. and what is not. They use S2000 bodyshell because they are not allowed to show Fabia III before it is launched officially. But for the rest we can only guess.
What do you mean? If I understood you correctly, you say, R5 is better, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
It should be better yes. If it matches a Mini RRC, I believe it should be slower than a Fiesta RRC (not to mention DS3 RRC), right? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by uranium
It must at least be running an R5 gearbox too I guess in order to give the engine a realistic workout for "real life" conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by miniwintz
As they are doing tests on both gravel and tarmac, I guess there will be a new suspension already as well. Otherwise, I don't see the use of testing on both surfaces, if the engine/drivetrain is good on 1 surface, it will be good on the other one too, no?
Not really. To be the best You have to find every bit of possible improvement. As the lifetime development of R5 cars is very limited (major modifications only once per 3 years I think) it's better to find the optimum as soon as possible. I do believe all WRC teams use different engine mapping for every event and I'm pretty sure even Škoda changes them quite often for S2000. For example on fast asphalt events You need peak power but on twisty muddy stages You need torque in low rpm because in high rpm You have no traction.
Same goes for gearing, there is never one common optimum for both asphalt and gravel. If You need one, it's a kind of compromise. Even asphalt events are different from each other. for example gearing of Punto S2000 was completely different than of Fiesta (I think these two were the most different of all).
Also for reliability it's good to do testing in life-conditions. When Škoda was developing the S2000 they for example left the cars stand out in the winter to start them as cold as possible. They drove cars to testing locations over motorway on their own etc. On gravel You have the dust or different stress to engine mountings, to clutch or to anything what can get loose.
That's cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I think we can see again Skoda are going to run a very thorough testing schedule given that they are already on both surfaces 16 months before homologation!
I recently read that Hans-Jochaim Stuck was one of the test drivers for the Fabia S2000. Not sure how useful such an old man can be for that job but quite cool they had such a diverse range of drivers and opinions developing that car.
Just watched this again, and to me this car seems much closer in style to a WRCar than the other R5s. Maybe just because it is running "virtual" WRC chassis and transmission?Quote:
Originally Posted by HarriK
Really? I never heard about him. I remember Baumschlager, Kopecký, Starý and Lindholm at the start. Than also Sainz or Panizzi were shortly involved. Later of course Hänninen, Loix, Mikkelsen, Kresta and now also Wiegand. Sure I forgot someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
?King of Hockenheim? in a Czech SUV - ?KODAQuote:
Originally Posted by Mirek