not only sutil :rotflmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
a pity if great driver like kimi has no ride next year, aren't there any new teams' seat empty, it is still good than remains without job...
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not only sutil :rotflmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
a pity if great driver like kimi has no ride next year, aren't there any new teams' seat empty, it is still good than remains without job...
Is it really? After winning teams such as Mclaren and Ferrari to go and drive around in the middle of the pack? I don't think so. I think that kind of steps down are for drivers who don't realize to quit (no names mentioned).Quote:
Originally Posted by leopard
After things didn't work out with McHamilton, Kimi had two bad choices to choose from and I think he chose the right one.
You are right about rallying. but Le Mans is a good choice, IMO he will be very competitive there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julle69
He is very good - but so are the other drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
I think Kimi needs a year or so..then we can se..I hope he gets a car and take this year to practise Rally on the top level .. get a feeling for it..
But the guy is very good for all motorsport with speed ..a natural talent … especially asphalt rallies would be interesting..
It’s unpleasant that banks can pay out one of the best drivers on the greed..
Who is preparing Solberg's cars next year?
He needs funding to run? Even Gronholm wants to race in Petters team?
Any potential for Kimi with them? Rather than in S2k?
Wow, are you a real Finn?! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
Kimi only wants a championship winning car and according to his manager, is "too good for anything else".
...Here's a fact: Kimi had a title-winning car last year and got soundly beaten by his own team-mate.
I don't see why any team would pay good money for a driver who will only give 100% on a string of conditions.
He is quickly turning into the new JV.
Hmm... To make a small summary, I have to mention that I never really managed to particularly warm towards Kimi, with his personality being too cold to my liking. I know stories about him being "different" behind the scenes and cameras, but in public he really left an impression of a man with a mask, without giving much of a guess what kind of a (mysterious) person he really is. If I had met him, he may well leave a completely another impression, but at the moment it's all a bit "meh". But to take a view from a positive angle - he is in a way different to others, and there are barely any, who can really be compared to him in terms of personality.
Career? The McLaren days were really very impressive, but the whole Ferrari stint put him into a slightly different light, giving a view of him from another angle, maybe exposing his weaknesses more clearly than they were visible in McLaren. But if there is any driver in F1, who I have felt is slightly overrated, I have to concede it's got to be Kimi. But still - he is fast, very fast, one of the fastest. When I'm thinking about his most impressive drive thus far, Monaco 2005 is the first one that springs to my mind.
I have to say that I like Kimi's ambition that Kulta wrote about in his article - to become the first man to win both F1 and WRC titles. It's nice to see people setting themselves quite extraordinary goals and I hope he is going to pursue his dream of achieving something completely new and unprecedented in the history of motorsports. Now that would be a truly historic achievement.
Typical misconception, rallying is not as popular in Finland as F1. It was very popular back in the 80's with Markku Alen etc. but the popularity has declined a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josti
So in 2010 Kimi will do nothing (or a couple of rallies) while Ferrari pay him more than any current F1 driver. That still sounds incredibly stupid.
I agree with you, there is no doubt he is popular for his definite speed and different personality, and although I don't really like him, I clearly give him credit for that. From a team and sponsor's point of view, however, he remains an expensive and difficult to work with driver, which pretty much explains why he didn't get a seat (and why Ferrari wanted to get rid of him, despite him being the better driver than Massa).Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
The whole "McLaren or nothing" attitude itself further illustrates that. If he doesn't have enough motivation to race in F1, which other drivers would KILL for, then maybe he shouldn't...
Yeah, I was joking, I know rallying can't be as popular as F1, even in Finland. But you, as a motorsport fan I pressume, to not care about it while Finland holds great successes in the sport throughout five decades surprises me.Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
Yep, I don't care about a discipline where people don't race each other, but that's just me, I know our moderator loves rallying, and I admit it's nice to watch it in Jyväskylä with a can of beer :) .Quote:
Originally Posted by Josti
Well, at the end it was a sensible decision for him.
the money was too good and if he wasn't going to race for Mclaren then he might as well sit a year out and enjoy counting the cash from Ferrari. Then he comes back a year or two later, rejuvenated and in a highly sought after status and takes another run at things.
Even if he does not come back, he has had an excellent career, won a championship, drove for two of the best teams, made out with a load of cash and left the sport, alive well, young and a lifetime ahead of him to do whatever he wants.
Not a bad position to be in I say ;)
Well, a number of us on this board (myself included) have stated over the last year that Kimi doesn't seem too motivated in F1. I think this latest move pretty much confirms it. Money was his first consideration, eventhough he already has more than he can spend in a lifetime.
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think we'll see him back in F1. Much like Montoya, he'll find out how much fun life can be without all the "behind the scenes" commitments and BS in F1.
Seems a little childish to be paid what £8m + and yet moan about having to do some sponsorship day events when they pay your wages. Poor things, however do they cope?
Maybe it's best for Kimi to leave.
I agree completely. He could've raced for free next year, and with the Ferrari pay off he'd still have earned more than most drivers. If he'd been seriously committed to F1 he'd have taken the offer from McLaren. I doubt he'll return.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firstgear
Is it just me who thinks Kimi is a greedy moron?
He says he wants to drive a Championship winning car e.g. McLaren. McLaren offer him a deal. He rejects it! It doesn't matter how much was offered, the 45m he got last year should sort him for life.
I have to say I really despise the man now.
:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
agreed
these guys are make millions upon millions, I have no remorse for him not getting a ride, if he really wants to be in F1 next year, there are still several teams looking for drivers, stop being greedy and race.
Dream on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Devote
He wasn't in it since he won the Championship in 2007, no matter what he and his fans said he wasn't really driving as a hungry driver.
His mind is now on WRC and if he does acceptably next season than he is bound to stay there.
I'm not sure if it's him or Robertson, but for once they pulled the shorter stick and I'm happy with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
It will not happen he's not the kind of person who can make the sacrifices needed to stay in shape for 2 years while not driving an F1 car every 2nd week.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
He's been dreaming about WRC for years now, so he'll do just that, have fun.
I wish him well with this. I hope it reignites some of the feist and passion that he seemed to lose in the last year or so. Good luck Kimi!
You can think Kimi is in the best position to do whatever he wants, but you cn also think that this demonstrates how unmotivated he is in F1.
If someone goes to work and says this, what would you think?
Hey man, I will only work for this guy and I´ll get as much as I ask. If not, bye bye.
That´s the impression I get from the last events. Kimi has put some very clear conditions which have been (supposedly) not met, he gets more money than any other pilot without even having to race and he can go and do some rallying, Le Mans or tree climbing. Yes, the best position one could dream with, but as an F1 fan I´d like to see him more commited to F1 although he has nothing more to demonstrate me. In fact, I´ve always liked him because he is deadly erratic and fast, but this is only my (possibly stupid) opinion.
He had a good career. Now he can relax and party with no worries. I'm happy for him.
He could always pay a visit to Mercedes GP.
And that's what they are saying
http://esporte.ig.com.br/grandepremi...a+9125594.html
Could all have been a publicity stunt by Merc to get Kimi in the hot seat?
I find this hard to believe...
Edit: If this proves true, this is very pathetic on Kimi's manager's part.
That all sounds like Greek to me :(Quote:
Originally Posted by JRodrigues
Here's the latest from Autosport: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80187
It does seem that Kimi only wanted a drive with McLaren which he considered :Raikkonen said last month that, in the wake of being released from his Ferrari contract, his only option to remain in F1 was with McLaren - because he wanted to be guaranteed a top-line grand prix car.
Maybe we can also draw a line from this as to why Bunsen wanted to go to McLaren, probably because he realised that had he remained at Brawn (now Mercedes) he would have had great difficulty keeping up with the McLaren drivers.
well he probably just wants to sit on the sidelines collecting his 45 mil. Seeing how Mercedes has signed Nico and JV there is no top seat left unless Force India does something. He could probably get a ride there anytime.
Jacques Villeneuve???Quote:
Originally Posted by fousto
Magic mushrooms are not good for you.
Aren't you forgetting Nico Hulkenberg? There are high expectstions for him - since Hamilton no other driver has entered f1 with such credentials.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bezza
If he acquits himself extremely well in the Williams I am sure there will be a bid by the "Vaderland" for his services at Mercedes Benz as it lloks to be a German driver only team from now on.
Wonder if Mercedes will really leave Ross Brawn to run things - the tempation to interfere may prove too much.
If they do so, they may end up like the old Honda.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Devote
Now Raikkonen's camp admits they will consider Mercedes...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80215
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Originally Posted by Koz
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
link you say:
http://www.imakesh!tup.com
or
http://totalf1.com/details/view/3257...sive_training/
Btw all BS aside Kimi has now said he will consider the Mercedes seat
Give it another week and the realisation of being out will kick in and he'll be saying that he will consider USF1 or Lotus too.
Take the bloody offer Kimi!
I really hope he goes to Mercedes. It would be a shame to see one of the best leave. Hakkinen pulled the same trick on me... I really don't see these sabbatical years viable.
and btw what's the deal with Mclaren? are they that desperate to have that number one on their car? This would be their 3rd year in the last 4 they would have it although they won only once.
If Kimi goes to Mercedes... I doubt it. It seems illogical and impossible. If he indeed goes to Mercedes I think that it was orchestrated from the beginning, a big theatre. But I doubt it...
When did Mercedes state that it is going to be an all-German team? Currently they have signed a driver whose grandmother and aunt used to live in my hometown and there are definitely no Germans there. I'd say they are pretty international so far. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Devote