I wonder which of Murray's mates was listening to the show and decided to stitch him up... I reckon James Allen :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
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I wonder which of Murray's mates was listening to the show and decided to stitch him up... I reckon James Allen :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Dave,Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
Brilliant! Thanks for that. That's my drive home tonight sorted :D
It was indeed perfect for my drive home! One of the main themes being 'why are McLaren so slow?!'
Fortunately I saw Jake mention it - it was a really good programme well done 5 live
Part one of a preview show (video too this time!) with Jake, EJ, DC and - I guess I now have to call him MB.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9418556.stm
They're - rightly - not impressed with the new McLaren!
There's a rumour doing the rounds that the BBC is looking to get rid of it's F1 coverage from 2014 due to cost cutting.
This cannot be allowed to happen!
That and Wimbledon, in fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Could this be Auntie attempting to play Bernard Charles at his own game - as in, you know we have given you the best form of coverage you could hope for in the UK, now drop your price or be forced to hand it back to sub-standard commercial TV. We've been spoiled with the quality, light years ahead of ITV's half hearted tripe - the Beeb just wants it cheaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Well, I hope so, anyway!
Thank the Lord, there is only so much of Sir Cliff singing due to rain one can take every half century!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
It happened once! Let it go :pQuote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
I hope so too! ITV seemingly aren't interested any more, they want the football. The BBC is the only reasonable home for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
I agree with the view that it's likely to be a negotiating ploy with Bernie, but they need to be very careful it doesn't backfire on them. ITV are starting to make profit again and have a bouquet of HD channels which could accomodate F1; Sky would snap up the rights in a heartbeat if Ecclescake relaxes the restrictions on subscription broadcasts.
The Beeb are being squeezed left right and centre at the moment: David Cameron called the prospect of cuts "delicious" (source) while new Trust chairman (and former Tory party chairman, no less) Chris Patten has predicted that "there will be all hell let loose" (source) when the public realise the scale of the cuts to programmes.
F1 is perceived - rightly or wrongly - as a rich sport, the BBC may feel politically pressured to distance themselves from that perception. :(
They have it till 2014 at least, so few years left yet before I get seriously worried.
They can ditch Wimbledon, tennis is dull and it is only a two-week spell in July anyway.
Hopefully they will realize the worth of F1. The only sports I watch on TV (having got rid of Sky Sports) are F1 and Match of the Day on BBC with the odd live football game they may have too.
I don't watch ITV at all.
Don't get rid of my F1, BBC! Hopefully Bernie can realize the upturn in interest of F1 recently in the UK is quite closely related to the excellent contribution of the BBC and the guys who make it what it is. To lose that would be like a dagger through the heart.
Patten, let's not forget, is a man who says he 'doesn't watch much television', and who was firmly booted out by his electorate in Bath in 1992, so can claim little legitimacy other than that which has been conferred upon him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
I'm not the biggest fan of Wimbledon/tennis - but I can't imagine the Beeb dropping it. It pulls in a huge audience, plus there is all the tradition that goes with it. If it come down to a choice, then the tennis will win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bezza
To be honest though, the Beeb's sports coverage in the main, has lost a lot in the last 10 years - concentrating far too much on football - and forgetting that they are a public service provider. They should be covering more minority/niche sports than the populist ones.
What did people think of BBC's new post Legard commentary team.
I thought DC did well and after a slightly wooden start I thought Martin Brundle slotted into his new role well.
He seems to struggle with the introduction bit when having to explain the rules and how F1 works for new audience, but once the proper action started he seemed more at home.
Yeah Brundle sounded awkward with the intro bit, but once into the commentary he was his usual professional self.
I thought Brundle sounded class apart from the shakey start and DC was just as good.
Positive vibes for the future :)
Hopefully will give us a more detailed and insightful commentary on the races, rather than ramble.
One thing I hope we still hear is info about the order front to back. Sometimes commentators can over concentrate on the front (understandable of course as it is most important, but the occasional run through the order 1-24 is good too).
why would they when there is pretty much a permanent graphic displaying the order throughout the race?Quote:
Originally Posted by aki13
A very good start for MB & DC. I may even be tempted to stick with them for the race rather than 5Live.
Brundle was great, DC seemed nicely at home, Eddie Jordan was his usual f**kwit and needs putting down asap.
Looks great in HD
Why oh why oh why oh why did they keep Eddie Jordan on? What a twat!
Apart from that bloke from RTL with the jacket he was quite clearly wearing for a bet. I don't need that at six something in the morning :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Robinho
Good work from MB and DC. Could be the start of something great.
Commentary was very slick yet unobtrusive. HD a welcome addition but BBC picture quality still isn't up there with Sky. 4:3 safe graphics not as bad during the race as they were in qualifying.
EH still a tit, but an entertaining one.
Did Eddie steal a woman from you or something? He was fine IMHO.....Quote:
Originally Posted by barryfullalove
EJ passed the entertaining idiot for me a long time. he clearly doesn't understand the sport, especially the technical side, stumbles all over his lines and those he's presenting with and is generally an embarrassment. he actually makes me angry when his random opinion is being passed off as expert analysis. he probably does more harm than good for the casual viewer who doesn't necessarily know he is talking bollocks most of the time
Nah, he just irritates the hell out of me and doesn't actually seem to understand much about a sport that he somehow got involved in at the highest level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I find him irritating sometimes too, but lets be honest if this was ITV coverage he'd be the best person on there bar Kravitz and of course Brundle. When I used to hear that Louise Goodman was interviewing someone who'd retired I used to get prepared to imaginarily punch something in my mind, she was just that dopey and annoying 99.99% of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by barryfullalove
thats 0.01% better than Jordan then already
But as it's not ITV coverage we're left with him just ruining what is, otherwise, a very, very accomplished presentation. EJ is the weak link IMO, he's one of the main reasons that I don't usually watch the build up or after race stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
He's obviously a marmite person then, you either love him or hate him so lets not let this turn into a pissing competition because clearly none of us will agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robinho
fair enough, and tbh in the Jordan F1 team days I was a huge fan, but for me that has completley failed to translate into a competent or even knowledgable broadcaster. so much so, in fact, that i have actually got off my arse (although not technically!) and complained to the BBC. a blot on an otherwise excellent team and broadcast in general for me.
i guess his charm just wore off.
MB and DC to stay for the season and lets keep EJ as whipping boy for DC the put down he got on the pit walk about during the red button forum was reall funny
Funny when EJ was saying Mercedes should have banners up shield there cars from view, then walked down to Red Bull and said " There's a proper team, they let the fans get a view and haven't put banners in the way".
Then DC said "probably because there are no cars in there Eddie"
:p
He hasn't changed at allQuote:
Originally Posted by Robinho
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It sounded strange having MB as the main commentator as he'd never taken that role before. But a good first effort by the pairing.
Didn't find it strange at all. More like relief.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Definitely can tell he doesn't like doing the intros.
For the first time, I watched the race live on Ten (in Australia) rather than downloading the BBC's full coverage, as I had been doing for the past few years.
So the biggest change for me, was not having EJ, as we don't get the pre and post race commentary in Australia. I have to say, I didn't miss him at all, but I did miss Jake Humphrey. I understand that the BBC is trying to keep someone entertaining in the team to make it accessible for the casual viewer, but I think they should be able to find someone better than him.
As for the main commentary, it thought it was brilliant. MB was as usual, professional and insightful, yet passionate and engaging. I thought it was a very good start for DC as well. This team can only get better with time as they get to know how to work better with each other.
Very promising, and truly enjoyable. Major thanks to the Brits who give us access to their commentary feed. Would shudder to think what would be like if a local (Aussie) team was commentating.
As for the HD part, I was actually left a bid underwhelmed. It was broadcast in 1080i with 16:9 aspect ratio here, but didn't look as good as I was hoping for.
The big decision for me will be whether to stick with Ten, or again go back to downloading the full program from the BBC. If I stick with Ten, I get to watch it live, but have to put up with ads and lack of proper pre and post-race analysis. Can't decide yet... we'll see...
One thing I forgot to mention: Ten's pre-race coverage in Australia was hosted by James Allen. As much as I enjoy reading his blog, it was a good reminder of why I don't want him on TV!