probably not, but nice rumour :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
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probably not, but nice rumour :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
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But my favorit rumour would be this, Petter-Gigi-Pirelli :D
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I don't like the boxer..
But the problem would be always the same ... they wouldn't be allowed (if we suppose they could be capable, even 1 time over the whole calendar) the work drivers :s also asked to stop 15 min when necessary ^^
PG Andersson is still a hot candidate to run the second car. Some local media here in sweden has recently interviewed PG who says that Petter wants him to be able to say how he is standing financially in two weeks time.
According to PG, Petter has already started the work to put together their CV's in a common folder.
Interesting!
http://nwt.se/sport/article600813.ece
But this mentiones S2000 for the second driver in the team. That was the original plan as far as I know, and then we heard of two WRC cars in the team, and now back to S2000.
I guess S2000 is correct, since Petter so far only have 1 C4 + 1 car wirth of spares.
Pug 207 for PG in the second car............
He has Xsara WRC.. Still better then Fabia or Lancer..
I don't understand. Is it allowed to have a team-mate with a different car and manufacturer?
And will PG drive in the S2000 cup or what? I'll be honest and say I have no idea what's going on!
I can't understand why it would not be allowed, it's a private team... :dozey: I have no examples of this now but hav'nt we seen teams with wrc cars and group n cars before?Quote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
Maybe - but I don't remember any. Thanks for clearing it up despite the sarcasm.
PSWRT has no intention to compete in the manufacturer championship or any other team competition, so he is allowed to have as many teammates and cartypes as he likes or as his teammates can afford. They (only) share the teamlogistics and the data they gather.
Mitsubishi RalliArt scored points in 1993/1994/1995 for the manufactures championship with Tommi Makinen in a group A Lancer and RalliArt Germany back up the one man team up with group N Lancer (Isolde Holderied, Jorge Recaldo, Uwe Nittel, Rui Madeira and more drivers)
Doesn't stobart for example have both Subarus and Focuses?Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
According to Quesnel, PSWRT has parts enough to build and run a second C4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Petter will probably need two C4s next year if its a full calendar, especially with the "far aways" in the first half.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard
Thanks for the clarification.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
how are things in here? eveything going fine ????
Nice to see you in here as well :) Truth? Very happy.. First gravelrally in a new car, never tested on wet gravel, learning the setup... So yeah.. Very happy! I'm surprised that Loeb and Sordo can't outpace him more.. They have after all approx. 60 rallies in that car, and also a later evolution...
yeah plenty of excuses for him....again.
Oh please............! The two guys in front of him are fighting for the championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
It takes a little while to get used to a new car. Petter lost 31.1 secs on the first pass, but only 9.4 secs on the second.
It'll be an exciting day tomorrow.
Can we ban NOT from this thread ^^ ?
why ?
And the nominated junior team drivers has to have 2008 spec, that makes his drive a bit more impressive !
so its the car once again...
I don't get this debate over Petter.. Isn't it quite clear?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Spain should prove to those who didn't understand it before, that Petter has had a car with serious disadvantage over the last years. 78 sec faster in 2009 than 2008. And he did fight pretty hard in 2008 with Aava to the end. I think most acknowledge that observation at this point.
Petter is emotional and a straight talker, on both the good and bad. But it should be understandable that he has been frustrated with the Subaru, when his talent was much better than the car he was driving. I remember banging my head in the wall when he signed his last contract with Subaru. That was obviously the stupidest choice he has made.
Now the question is if other drivers have progressed more than himself over the last years while he was not able to fight in the top. This only future results can tell. He's one of the 4 best drivers, and the rest we will see. I just hope he get a competitive package for 2010.
But it's awesome to hear him on the radio, I'm starting to sense a bit of that true fighting spark in his voice again.. (if you can remember) been a long time.
Really? What would you have done in his place?Quote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
Sign up with a different team. Or if not feasible sing a 1 year contract only..Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
It was already clear at that point that the Subaru suffered from serious reliability problems.
he was free this year, why did he not sign with another team now?Quote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
stupid question... A couple of years back he had several options.. This year: None... Then he did what nobody else have managed to do.. Made a private team who's fighting for podiums...
Are you trying to be funny?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
There were no offers with competitive car.
Even though he instead had to chose perhaps an even slower car, than an M2 Ford which he could have got, what he did was what he considered best for his image and future commercial value. It's quite obvious even to yourself I'm sure that 2009 was not a season Petter was looking for the best results. But for his best transition into a possible contract for 2010.
Did he actually have? I cant remember that he would have had, maybe you can refresh the memory, who else did offer him a contract? And please facts, no VG rumours.Quote:
Originally Posted by JFL
No he is doing fine, so relax N.O.T.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Bur according to the regs the Juniors or B teams CAN NOT use 2009 homologated parts, only the A teams or privateers (if they can get it) are allowed to use 2009 bits ! I am not sure what changed on the C4 btw 08 and 09 ?
Not sure what options he had, but in 2004 and 5, before it really started to go steep downhill, he could maybe have done something. But after the frustration started to show to much, he was probably not the dreampartner - but on top he is for any sponsor the only one in WRC that are a bit human and show feelings. The rest of them are boring, and without much mimic during an interview (Much like the F1 boys), as if there was a course to learn to behave that way !?
The point is not that it existed better offers. Perhaps there would have been, and perhaps not. We don't know because he was tied up with Subaru. But to sign up for a long term contract with a car with such recent history of reliability problems did not look smart at the time. Yes financially it was smart, but for his driving it was risky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
The point that some people seem to deny is that Subaru has not been competitive for several years.
Actually it came from his team-manager/wife. She said it in some interviews, but Petter wanted to stay loyal to Subaru, and fight back to win again.. She also said that, it's in the past, and we can't think about that now..Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
While he was under contract with Subaru or under discussion with them for a new contract, its not very professianal to tell what other teams that was in the picture..
You can take my word for it or not, but I don't bother finding these quotes right now, but if I stumble over them, you will be the first to know... Or if anybody else find it..
Or you can PM me and I wil give you his telephone number, and you can ask for yourself.
Sorry, but its a bit hard to belive that there ever has been any offers, because I dont think neither Citroen or Ford would have swapped their nr 1 drivers for Petter at that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by JFL
No need for phone number, Lol, he was embarrased enough yesterday in tv when they asked him about his arrangements with Kimi.
If he was not under contract with Subaru he could have teamed with Ford and Mikko for 2008 and 2009. In 2007 when such a deal would have been made, Latvala was not even slightly interesting compared to Petter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Edit: So, he potentially lost 3 seasons, even 2010, as it doesn't look like his car will be top-of-the-line even then.
Nice story but again too many if's and would, and based on your dreams nothing else. Im not sure at all Wilson would have been interested, Latvala is an investment in the future, and he will be worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
You don't have to make sarcastic remarks. It's not my dream, it's just a dry fact. You are the one who's digging and asking about this. And the answer is that this would have been highly likely in 2007. Latvala in 2007 and latvala in 2009 are two quite different prospects. Latvala was taken on too early, due to lack of better alternative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
But I don't think you are humble enough to admit that straight out.
im digging in this only because i find it amusing you and others think Petter is a driver in a position who can go to what ever team he wants to, by now when he has been crawling in front of every teamboss it should be clear that its far from a fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by bretddog