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Atko is around for a long time in the WRC... he gained experience and it's about the time to deliver strong results. Ogier only stepped up last year to the top level, he's a rookie in the big league. None of us know what Quesnel tells Ogier to do in this rally, so don't judge him because he's not matching Loeb & Sordo. It seems to me he's doing a goob job for someone who is yet to score a point in the WRC.
Ogier has scored a WRC point already - on his WRC debut in Mexico 2008.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mihai
On the other hand it is a comparison of a works driver to a pay-driver, a comparison of a driver with hundreds of hours spent with the C4 WRC to a driver with just a few hours test...Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
Btw.: All the best for Urmo Aava, he's celebrating 30. birthdays tomorrow! :)
sordo is lost again on splits...
edit: there he is again
I think he is slow. But that maybe is compared to my expectations after his stagewin in GB and the Monte win... off course this is just his second Wrc start so... Maybe my expectations was to high... But i nwver thought he whould be beaten by Henning on the stages...Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
has Ogier really had so much more time with the C4?Quote:
Originally Posted by FabiaFan
me to, i thought he could stick to the leaders.Quote:
Originally Posted by J.Lindstroem
Sounds quite unusual with a french driver who is better on gravel...Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
Can anybody confirm that the final stage will be shown on WRC TV?
Monte win?Quote:
Originally Posted by J.Lindstroem
Refering to his IRC Monte win...Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
I must say Henning is keeping up much better than I though - considering it is tarmac. Maybe he has gotten a more up-to-date car this year afterall?
yes wasnt that a great achievement?Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
live coverageQuote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
Jonkka: Were You sleeping? :)
Yes, Ogier won IRC Monte Carlo 2009 although he wasn't fastest but had no problems. He was doing times around 4th in stage (except his home stage which he won).
Edit: I'm veeery slow, the slowest of all :D
Thanks ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by darkstar
Ah, the bicycling race... Well, I am sure Rautenbach and Matthew Wilson have also won something.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
I think the J-WRC in 2008 was more like a bicycling race than the Monte Carlo rally...Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
Yes, that bycicling race which was ten tousand percent more exciting than this dying thing called World Rally Championship...
J.Lindstroem: Sad thing is that JWRC 2009 is even worse, much worse...
defenetly true!Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze
everything seems to be much worse this year.... except for the IRC then! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze
Well, at least there was some action plus a good TV-coverage. In the WRC only excitement is on which of the first three stages Latvala is going to crash and how spectacular crash Atko is going to perform. Wake me up when the season is over. :s nore:Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
Only one REAL bicycle racer was at Monte ... E.T. :) But what a racer, 10 times world champion! And pretty good man.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
Ogier had luck during Monte, but nevertheless, he won. And in the end, Peugeot freezed positions, so Freddy backed-off. But seems the Ogier is really having talent. Anyway I don't like the way how he presented on Monte Carlo in TV. Howgh! :)
And maybe it's only my personal feeling, as I followed past seasons personally, but IRC and ERC still have more familiarity spirit between crews and peoples around.
There is a separate board for IRC:
http://forums.motorsport.com/forums/...play.php?f=157
You doubt this?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by J.Lindstroem
FabiaFan: I hope You'll show us complete list of testing Ogier did in C4. I'm realy looking forward to see it. Thank You
Here in Ireland, ALL JWRC get points.... there are only 7 leftQuote:
Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze
I am so excited!Quote:
Originally Posted by darkstar
me too, is this a typical spectator super special, with one on one?Quote:
Originally Posted by SchUMine
Ahhh, another Finn with IRC-Phobia. Most people seemed to think Monte was more like proper rallying than this thing called WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
And for the Ogier bashers, how quickly some of you forget he made the points on his first WRC event (in an S1600 car) he won his first stage in a World Rally Car and led Rally GB until stage 5. He won as many stages on Rally GB as he did on Monte (one)
Yes and that makes his pace this weekend suprisingly slow... :SQuote:
Originally Posted by RS
atkinson looses lots of time!!! and loeb had some big moment, and tipically loeb, luck again! nothing happened...
I think Atko's time is 57.8 not plus 57.8 because apparently he had no damage when passing my mate on SS18 about 5km in...
Or maybe I'm wrong!! +1.01 now!
Yeah, I have to say I did expect more from him this weekend, but that message was more directed to those who earlier on this thread saying that Ogier's performance here proved that IRC was "nothing"Quote:
Originally Posted by J.Lindstroem
Anyhow, interesting that it looks like this thread will have less views and posts than the 2009 Monte one :)
A million flies can't be wrong, that brown thing must be good...Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
And losing steadily. Luckily Ogier is too far behind so he won't drop more than one place.Quote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
haha youre funny!Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka