Erm... excuse me if im wrong, but didnt Hamilton also have a tyre 'problem' that massively helped him, but was treated with only a 15k fine? I believe that is what u call a double standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malllen
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Erm... excuse me if im wrong, but didnt Hamilton also have a tyre 'problem' that massively helped him, but was treated with only a 15k fine? I believe that is what u call a double standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malllen
Many of us have know that for a long time: double standard = Ron Dennis.Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyKate
Well, that would clear the debris from the site and leave the possibility of building something new in the future! :sQuote:
Originally Posted by wmcot
ClarkFan
Don't get overexcited about the advantage that 2-4 degrees brings (remember, they are allowed 10). Gascoyne was quoted as citing 5 horsepower, pretty much nothing against a 750 HP baseline for a F1 engine. If you found a way to add 5 hp to your street car (against a far lower baseline), you wouldn't feel the difference in acceleration and even a stopwatch would be hard pressed to distinguish the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by rohanweb
If the fuel temps made a difference of 0.5 seconds a lap I would be surprised; 0.2 sec would be more like it.
ClarkFan
McLaren should just forget this season and move on. These appeals have no sence, and only make McLaren more desperate. Like FIA takes such a decision back. No way!
And the difference would only be for the time that it takes the fuel to reach ambient temperature. I don't think that could have been many laps. The rest of the car was at 40+ degrees (in its coolest parts) and had a mass of about 550kg compared with the fuel's 80 or less.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClarkFan
That's what happens when one thinks he has 2 right hands when reality is that one of them is however the left hand! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
Speculation is that it would be starting at 5Hp diminishing to nothing over 5 or so laps after refuelling , perhaps at best , a .2 advantage to start , so it wouldn't amount to as much as a second each time . It might gain you 2.5 seconds in the race , on a 3 stopper .
Being that it was frighteningly hot , and that much was said about how much the darker colour of the asphalt laid in August of this year was affecting the heat , I am not surprised about how temperatures between officials varied , and how they came to dismiss this as not being a breach , in the conditions .
A few years ago , at Interlagos , didn't Coulthard get away with a too thin skid plate , as it was shown on camera that he rode over those awful bumps up the hill more often than some ?
An on-camera scrape over the curbing has saved a few penalties over the years , showing there was no intent to run too low , but rather a "force majeure" as cause for a technical breach .
Here , we not only have discrepancies in official readings , but also a temperature that was rising in the sun , and likely rising slower in the shade of the garage .
It would be interesting to see how close others came to the magic 10 degrees below ambient . We might find all of them pretty close to the line . In fact , I would expect it .
A breach , yes , but one that remains a bit foggy , if one dosen't have a corroborating reading on another gauge .
So , if 4 or so degrees could gain you 2.5 seconds , in which an F1 car can travel a heck of a distance , would that distance or time be enough to try it ?
Alonso kept his points because he sold out his team. Hamilton isn't in the position to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
do you realize what any of the teams would pay to gain 5 hp today, with the engine homologation?Quote:
Originally Posted by ClarkFan
it is NOT nothing.