Silly Season 2019

I still have trouble believing ogier would go to the worst team with the worst car when he has other options.
Unless they offer him a huge cheque.

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Originally Posted by er88

Lol, Ford's "support" this year says everything Ogier needs to know about their commitment.

They have one of the best drivers of all time and they've been pissing about with botched up aero jobs, massively delaying engine upgrades and can't even return as a full manufacturer. No wonder Seb is disappointed and is seemingly going to risk it at Citroen instead.

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Seb might do the same as Räikkönen. To stop his career there, where everything started. Citroën is willing to pay what Ogier wants and I doubt that Ford is ready to do the same.

Ogier also has a right to be pissed about Ford's approach.

He talked for like 6 months about wanting to be in manufacturer team. Won drivers title and manu title for MSport and even then Ford didn't come in fully.

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Originally Posted by rp

Yes, but Ogier is thinking that it´s not enough and of course Ford could put more resources.

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M-Sport needs money, not resources from Ford Performance.

People from Ford Performance are not competent enough for the task.

The Wilson familly knows where and how to spend de money developping the car and on schedule.

This is the part that people from Ford still didn't understand.

Ah, and Ford Motor Company is with financial troubles...

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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

After Ford coming back to support M-Sport which is what Ogier wanted he looks like jumping ship to Citroen. Disappointing.

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Eddie, do you really think ford have provided much support at all? Why is his decision disappointing? Sounds to me like Ford over promised and under delivered.

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Originally Posted by denkimi

I still have trouble believing ogier would go to the worst team with the worst car when he has other options.
Unless they offer him a huge cheque.

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That car, with none of the top 3 drivers behind the wheel, which recently fought, briefly, but still, for rally Finland and Turkey wins, has been quick on tarmac and snow+ has a few victories vs Ford that had to use teammembers assistance once again to get P6? Sounds terrible yes, although more like it needs Ogier.

None of us know what happens behind the scenes, but Ford have provided more assistance than M-Sport had had since they pulled out.

Ogier jumping to a Citroen team which has been in dissaray, with a dodgy car, plus the dropping of Meeke, is a big gamble.

He could show a bit of patience and loyalty to M-Sport.

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Originally Posted by AnttiL

However, it will be interesting to see if Red Bull would follow Ogier to Citroen and would Abu Dhabi then be off Citroen, maybe back to M-Sport?

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That would be nice, if so.

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Originally Posted by er88

Lol, Ford's "support," this year says everything Ogier needs to know about their commitment.

They have one of the best drivers of all time and they've been pissing about with botched up aero jobs, massively delaying engine upgrades and can't even return as a full manufacturer. No wonder Seb is disappointed and is seemingly going to risk it at Citroen instead.

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If you listen to Ogier in post-stage interviews, my interpretation of certain paraphrases seems to follow these thoughts. "We now that [Hyundai & Neuville] on pure speed it's a challenge" at the end of Turkey poweratage. Or, words to that effect, apologies. To me, I interpreted that as the Hyundai car/team is quick as it's been developed further.

Then, in the David Evans article, the quote (verbatim) "I wanted to know more about the commitment [from the manufacturer] and we're getting that." Smells like Citroen to me, proving that this year they are almost saving the cash to really go for it and not quit.

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Originally Posted by Maui J.

Once again your comments are so fickle. A driver has a few average rallies and they are has-beens in your eyes. I remember your comments that Loeb and Ogier were the only two real drivers, the rest being second-rate.
Do I remember you saying a season or two ago that Neuville was done, not fast enough and never will be. Do I remember you saying Tommi's Toyota team was a bunch of village idiots that won't achieve anything.
You are so quick to jump to conclusions you can't be taken seriously.
20000 comments in 18 years...that's a lot of diatribe. Could you go to the badminton or skipping rope forums. They make like you.

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Ogier is average for 2 years now... last year Neuville lost the championship Ogier did not win anything...

A few years back Loeb and Ogier were the only drivers...

Tommis toyota is a village mess and is getting carried by tanak...

I never doubted neuvilles speed (maybe in the citroen days) i doubt his mentality...

shouldn't be bothered with NZ people but i like sheep...