another school shooting in U.S. of A. :(

I think there should be an equivalent of Godwin's law whenever the Vops of this world mention Obama in a thread :)

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Originally Posted by ioan

You call gun ownership a reality, just like gravity,....

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Not what I said. I said the existence of the guns is a reality.

Tony - Great Answers

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Originally Posted by ioan

Nope, his assertion is right, those people have been killed with freely available guns. Do you think that the guy would have been able to kill all those people without the guns? I highly doubt it.

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No. I don't. Are you having difficulty reading today? Go back and re read because that is also not what I said.

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Originally Posted by Rollo

.....you've either weakened government to the point where it can not or is not allowed to do anything.....

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Nope, it started that way in the beginning. On purpose. We like it that way.

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Originally Posted by ioan

How far does your paranoia go over guns can go?

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Let's try and be a little less personally insulting, shall we?

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Originally Posted by race aficionado

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Not funny.

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Agreed, but only too true.

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

The US has Never started a war. Check you facts. The Germans on the other hand.......

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Sorry to disagree with you, but we did start the second war in Iraq.

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Originally Posted by Rollo

To put it another way, the situation is so far gone there can be no turning back.[/i]

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Which is why I firmly believe a better process of ensuring those that have access to guns are the least likely to cause mass harm with them.

Should that be to look at an entire family history above just the individual applicant then so be it.

Ok lets do reality check - you wonder why we want guns. You guys (TiRE;s) have already slaughtered the equivalent to the nation of Israel and now most of you support countries wanting to wipe them off the face of the earth. God save us if you guys could mount a army. I hope we wake up and eliminate almost all of our foreign aid, withdraw from nato, withdraw from the UN. Seal our borders and tariff every piece of sh!t you guys are trying to get in here. Fk the Global Economy we will have our own and do just fine. As you can see this thread has just turned to insults so lets not sugar coat it. History shows you are vicious and barbaric and thank god you have been suppressed. Go through the history of the world if you are stuck understanding this. I am surprised they even let you guys buy propane!!