I will probably be banned for this, but...shooting thread!

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Originally Posted by Starter

I don't have time to do a complete forum search of all your posts, so perhaps you could remind me of the last time you applauded anything done by the US? I certainly can't remember it. So, could it be that the body of your posts would lead one to believe that you perhaps are not inclined to think much of this country?

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I would be interested to find any instances where I had applauded any country. It's generally not the sort of thing I, or many other people, do. You really were infected with the Bush virus, weren't you — 'You're either with us or against us'. Even a lack of explicit praise is now cited as outright opposition. An interesting leap of judgement.

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Originally Posted by Starter

The war with Japan was justified because of their attack on US territory

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Actually it was Hawaiian territory before the US attacked it and made it US territory. And there were many ethnic Japanese in Hawaii, so it was natural that Japan was as interested in ruling Hawaii as the US was. Japan was never a real threat to the mainland USA.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I had hoped you'd realised enough about me to know that I don't automatically lump you in with certain other individuals.

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I would have thought so. However, the words on the screen tell a different story. If you are now clarifying what you said, I can accept that. I suppose my advise would be that in the future when you quote me you should not say something that you are not applying to me without expressly stating as such. I hope you can see where confusion can lay when one is quoted, but somehow the poster is not directing a response to that quote?

Starter, fair enough on many of those points a few posts above. However...

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Originally Posted by Starter

I was only asking why almost all (if not actually all) of your posts on any subject about the US are negative. It's a reasonable question. The thing that irritates me (and I suspect some others) is the seemingly constant pounding of all things American. That's not deserved criticism, that's just piling on.

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I object enormously to any accusations of anti-Americanism. There is much to admire about America. When topics come up, I respond to them. The fact that, on issues like gun control and foreign policy, I find myself more in disagreement with you and certain others than I happen to agree. That, though, is hardly my fault, is it?

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Originally Posted by chuck34

Because you are trying to tell the US how to live. You don't understand our culture, and you don't live like we do. Why are our guns any of your business.

Don't you see your hypocracy?

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What's that hypocracy?! Oh wait, you were talking about your culture not ours. Now I understand what that word should mean.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Because all of these people are far more frightened than we are. I don't consider this a positive trait.

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Especially when the aforementioned people poses guns. Some politicians did a 'great' job over there.

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Originally Posted by Starter

I suspect that you and I may disagree much less than you think on foreign policy.

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Very possibly, and I apologise for misrepresenting that.

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Originally Posted by ioan

What's that hypocracy?! Oh wait, you were talking about your culture not ours. Now I understand what that word should mean.

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Evidently he means a system of government the Hypocrites, for the Hypocrites, by the hypocrites..

There is a small possiblity that he means:hypocrisy Look up hypocrisy at Dictionary.com
c.1200, ipocrisie, from O.Fr. ypocrisie, from L.L. hypocrisis, from Gk. hypokrisis "acting on the stage, pretense," from hypokrinesthai "play a part, pretend," also "answer," from hypo- "under" (see sub-) + middle voice of krinein "to sift, decide" (see crisis). The sense evolution in Attic Greek is from "separate gradually" to "answer" to "answer a fellow actor on stage" to "play a part." The h- was restored in English 16c.

But Shirley I could not comment.

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Originally Posted by ioan

What's that hypocracy?!

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Only medical practitioners have a right to vote, after taking their oath ? :p

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

The Nuance is that more people have been murdered under the specter of restrictive gun control laws in Europe than all those killed by guns owned by private citizens in the USA. I guess I was too subtle.....

And once again I will point out that I reject any notion that people like you can restrict my right to defend myself, my family, my friends and my property as I see fit. My mere possession of a firearm doesn't violate anyone else right so you have nobody else has the right to restrict it.

So this discussion is over which releases you to tell other people how they can live their lives.

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This is the very first time I've ever heard a gun supporter state that guns kill. Usually it is the idiotic,guns don't kill people, people kill people.