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Why would you need any? We know fine well that any tyre manufacturer can make a tyre last for an entire race - or even longer if they were so minded. There's no reason to suspect Pirelli couldn't also do that. But the fact that the FIA asked them not to means they don't :crazy:
F1 is special though. To build a tyre which is quick throughout the race and would last the whole race is quite an achievement and I don't think just anyone could do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
But we've had Pirelli (unless you think they are lying) saying that building a tyre to only last a certain distance was actually much more difficult than producing a tyre which would last a long time.
Besides, Bridgestone made tyres which were too hard, of course they had tyres which lasted the whole race in 2003, and subsequent years drivers only stopped to refuel, and in 2010 they only stopped because they had to put on a different type of tyre, which made little difference.
Au contraire - Kimi was his only downfall by locking up - I would say the tyre, suspension and his fillings held up remarkabilly well!Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
...... in their first season having returned to F1 after a long break. If you want to compare successful tyre products you need to look at endurance racing. Which company supplies the most suitable tyres, for example, in the Le Mans 24HRS race? (that's not rhetorical BTW)Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I don't necessarily think they're lying, I just feel that a company who can't build a hard that lasts longer than a soft perhaps isn't the best manufacturer to be making tyres for a top level race series.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
The FIA has a history in recent years of choosing the less qualified of two companies to supply tyres.
In the WRC when there was a choice between Pirelli and Michelin/BF Goodrich a few years ago and depsite the issues which Pirelli had with delaminating tyres only a year or so before, Pirelli were chosen and made rock hard tyres. Now all of a sudden Pirelli don't want to supply to the WRC and they have BF Goodrich and Dmack tyres. I mean who the **** are Dmack?
If people don't think there's even the slightest chance that the FIA might just be biased against Michelin/BF Goodrich and perhaps a little too eager to accept Pirelli bids. Now I'm certainly not suggesting there's any possible corruption or anything going on here :laugh: Heaven forbid the FIA should be involved in anything like that :laugh:
Michelin? It would be very interesting to see how many drivers and manufacturers the various tyre brands have. Obviously you'd have to exclude times where there is only a single supplier or there's a control tyre.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
Control tyres are just stupid anyway. The whole skill of being a racing/rally driver is to choose the right compound which is going to work for the race and indeed during different parts of the race. I'd love to see Michelin/Dunlop/Goodyear/Bridgestone/Pirelli duking it out on the track. Right now any moron, let alone an F1 engineer or racing driver could pick the right compound for races these days. Not Pirelli's problem I'll admit, but the product of silly control tyre rules better suited to far lower formulae.
We can all agree on that, but it's all part of the FIA's supposed cost cutting. Nobody really likes being a control tyre - except Goodyear.
I think costs have been cut in the wrong departments though. I think the additional cost of having a tyre manufacturer bringing however many compounds they felt necessary would be less than some of the extravagances which F1 indulges in *cough* motorhomes/motormansions *cough* No one's suggesting they start using popup caravan's or anything ;) But different compounds of tyre made things so much more interesting when one team got one compound to work with their car and so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Endurance racing is more interesting in that regard, trying to double stint on a set of tyres.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
What I would like to see is freedom of choice across brand and compounds instead of being contracted to a single company and the incentive of free tyres.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
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Originally Posted by Daniel
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http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2011/0...rice-is-right/
Last year Pirelli was selected to be the sole tyre supplier, beating Michelin to the deal. One of the criteria was that the Pirelli tyres were cheaper and they would supply more sets than Michelin.