The Gushing Oil Leak Disaster

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17th June 2010, 04:20
race aficionado

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Look it up I am not your card-catalog; although I worded that wrong, British Petroleums biggest contribution was to Obama, they were not one of his top contributors

So Obama himself told them not to use the safety device? Or are you talking of a government office that did not do it's job and you conveniently blame the president that you so much dislike.

:s mokin:

Oh, and as for your Palin's accusation of the BP contributions to candidate Obama let me add this quote that you probably missed:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...pill-response/

[quote"Obama is the top recipient of BP PAC & individual money over the past 20 years. Dispute these facts," she wrote, linking to a Politico article citing campaign finance reporting showing more than $3.5 million given to candidates by BP since 1990.

The largest single donation by BP -- $77,051 -- went to Obama.

However, Palin did not point to another set of numbers reported by campaign watchdog, the Center for Responsive Politics, which showed the oil and gas industry overall contributed $2.4 million to John McCain's 2008 presidential campaign while $898,000 went for Obama's bid.[/QUOTE]
17th June 2010, 11:56
Mark

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Originally Posted by AAReagles

That's what I was getting at, since none of those guys responsible at Union Carbide were held accountable.

It was on TV recently on one of those travel around the world programmes. Basically the plant is just derelict, and they've done absolutely nothing with it! And there are people living right beside it. A disgrace.
17th June 2010, 15:39
Roamy

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Originally Posted by Rollo

I'm wondering what will happen if this disaster rips BP to bits.

If BP is brought to court with multiple law suits, it could possibly file for bankruptcy and then it would be placed into either administration or worse, the liquidators would step in.
If the company is liquidated, BP would be picked apart like carrion by the other supermajors, and the relevant parts of the company would remain untouched.

Thus, legally BP would cease to exist, the environmental disaster would continue, the other oil companies would carry on as normal, and the poor people who have lost their livelihoods wouldn't be helped even an iota.
That is what I fear is going to take place over the next three years.

Yes Rollo this is a wonderful thought. !!!!!
17th June 2010, 19:03
Bob Riebe

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Originally Posted by race aficionado

So Obama himself told them not to use the safety device? Or are you talking of a government office that did not do it's job and you conveniently blame the president that you so much dislike.

It is Obama's administration with people he appointed, cheap excuses are just that cheap.

I have not heard anything about massive firings of the people who gave the waiver either.
17th June 2010, 19:14
AAReagles

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Originally Posted by Mark

It was on TV recently on one of those travel around the world programmes. Basically the plant is just derelict, and they've done absolutely nothing with it! And there are people living right beside it. A disgrace.

I spotted a news spot on it, while watching a bit of mainstream media, and from what I remember, it stated that people killed during the explosion, transmission of chemicals and those who died later on from the after-effects, amounted to an incredible 14,000 deaths.

Profits over people as usual. :dozey:

Now how's that saying go?... "... it's nothing personal, it's just business."
17th June 2010, 19:52
Mark in Oshawa

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Originally Posted by AAReagles

This is only about oil of course, but wait till the time comes when the next precious resource becomes water itself. That will make things real interesting...

THAT is a debate and conversation that I am waiting for. Canada is very aware of being as it is we hold more fresh water than the rest of the world. What is more, we have a lot of people thinking we shouldn't sell it to the world either.....the politics of this are a hornet's nest here already.
17th June 2010, 19:53
Mark in Oshawa

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Originally Posted by AAReagles

I spotted a news spot on it, while watching a bit of mainstream media, and from what I remember, it stated that people killed during the explosion, transmission of chemicals and those who died later on from the after-effects, amounted to an incredible 14,000 deaths.

Profits over people as usual. :dozey:

Now how's that saying go?... "... it's nothing personal, it's just business."

Union Carbide should have had people in jail over what happened in Bhopal. BP execs should be paying a heavier price for this than they will.

AS should the government oil regulators and inspectors who should be and have the mandate to stop all drilling and/or exploration if precautions are not being taken. Instead, BP did what they wanted when it was well known they were outside the law and cutting corners at times...
17th June 2010, 20:14
AAReagles

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

THAT is a debate and conversation that I am waiting for. Canada is very aware of being as it is we hold more fresh water than the rest of the world. What is more, we have a lot of people thinking we shouldn't sell it to the world either.....the politics of this are a hornet's nest here already.

Likewise. I’m wondering with all this discussion about immigration going on, that when is someone going to include on the subject - here in the state of California at least - that the water system we have now is only set in proportion to a population of approx., 20 million, NOT 30+.

This of course, is not including water needing to sustain the Ag industry of growing crops and raising livestock.

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

Union Carbide should have had people in jail over what happened in Bhopal. BP execs should be paying a heavier price for this than they will.

AS should the government oil regulators and inspectors who should be and have the mandate to stop all drilling and/or exploration if precautions are not being taken....

:up: :up: Exactly!

I see the MSS and other regulators being just as negligent as were the board members of the SEC (Securities Exchange Commission) when they were warned of a train-wreck coming to Wall Street.
17th June 2010, 20:47
race aficionado

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Originally Posted by AAReagles

:up: :up: Exactly!

I see the MSS and other regulators being just as negligent as were the board members of the SEC (Securities Exchange Commission) when they were warned of a train-wreck coming to Wall Street.

This is where it all falls apart. Human beings being interested in what's good for them and always focused on how they can take advantage of a position of power.
greed and irresponsibility is the norm.
:dozey:
17th June 2010, 20:58
AAReagles

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Originally Posted by race aficionado

... Human beings... greed and irresponsibility is the norm.
:dozey:

Which is why I don't expect things to improve much. As I have little faith in mankind.

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