FIFA World Cup 2010...

Germany 2-0 over the Aussies 29:08

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Originally Posted by Josti

Horn noise was common in 1960's, 1970's football stadiums actually. Ok, this is a bit different, but I do think it creates a distinctive atmosphere. I don't mind it as much as I would've expected, just something to get used to. The vuvuzela is an iconic South African instrument, the people are enthousiasts, I think we should respect that.

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Agreed. In Australia and South Africa you don't get the football singing that you probably get here. Does that mean if the world cup ever comes here and South African people find the singing annoying that they shouldn't let people sing? Of course not. The point of having these events in different countries is to get a flavour of that country.

Perhaps the vuvuzela's are a bit OTT but the beauty of black culture for anyone who's ever actually stepped foot on African soil and seen it for themselves is the exuberance and honesty of it. If you want to supress the black culture then why the hell have the tournament in Africa?

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Perhaps the vuvuzela's are a bit OTT but the beauty of black culture for anyone who's ever actually stepped foot on African soil and seen it for themselves is the exuberance and honesty of it. If you want to supress the black culture then why the hell have the tournament in Africa?

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I don't want to surpress black culture at all, I'm a big fan of African music (admittedely more Mali based than anything else). However there is a difference between having some traditional instruments and making thousands of plastic versions which are then arbitrarily sounded throughout the game. I' don't think that they should get rid of them, just give it a bit of a rest at times.

I've watched 4 or 5 games so far and everytime I get a headache from the noise and have to turn the sound down so that I can no longer hear the commentary. If England had the WC and half the crowd had plastic trumpets that never shut up then I'm fairly sure that people would moan about it....I know that I would.

serbia: my predicted dark horses go down to ghana. that could be crucial to 2nd place in the group, well done the ghanians.

as for germany, good attacking football with flair at times-not something we can often say about the germans. (not that i can talk-being english) anyone reckon this one is being watched in the red bull camp? could be humurous.

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Originally Posted by Mr Jan Yeo

I don't want to surpress black culture at all, I'm a big fan of African music (admittedely more Mali based than anything else). However there is a difference between having some traditional instruments and making thousands of plastic versions which are then arbitrarily sounded throughout the game. I' don't think that they should get rid of them, just give it a bit of a rest at times.

I've watched 4 or 5 games so far and everytime I get a headache from the noise and have to turn the sound down so that I can no longer hear the commentary. If England had the WC and half the crowd had plastic trumpets that never shut up then I'm fairly sure that people would moan about it....I know that I would.

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That's what it's like in South Africa. I'm not going to complain when I go to an England SA rugby match in England when I have to sit next to a loud obnoxious lager breathed fatty now am I?

When in Rome..... or should I say when watching TV coverage of something happening in Rome, STFU and stop complaining :)

The Aussies are just triing to look to pretty. They need to calm down and think about the game and not the cameras.

At the moment...Germany is just too strong for Australia :s

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Agreed. In Australia and South Africa you don't get the football singing that you probably get here. Does that mean if the world cup ever comes here and South African people find the singing annoying that they shouldn't let people sing? Of course not. The point of having these events in different countries is to get a flavour of that country.

Perhaps the vuvuzela's are a bit OTT but the beauty of black culture for anyone who's ever actually stepped foot on African soil and seen it for themselves is the exuberance and honesty of it. If you want to supress the black culture then why the hell have the tournament in Africa?

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You could add the samba drums in South America to banned items and people will be as silent as in a golf game.

4-0 the germans. easy.

australia have gone to nothing, this is looking embarassing for them, not what I expect of the aussies.

the germans are in a different class. if they keep this up, they could win the entire tournement.

Germany too strong but the referee is a big idiot, that red card was unfair :down: