I too feared the worst after seeing the crash. Hats off to the FIA, the GPDA and the designers for the advances in safety.
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I too feared the worst after seeing the crash. Hats off to the FIA, the GPDA and the designers for the advances in safety.
Look, we all know that auto racing is dangerous and will never be safe, no matter what. The drivers know this, the teams know this, etc. Show it. It's part of the entertainment. We all want him to be safe, but most people will enjoy a spectacular crash. Spectacular it was, and pretty heart-wrenching, but at least he survived with only something as bad as a broken leg. It could've been a whole lot worse and we can all be thankful that it wasn't.
Good to hear that he is OK, I thought of Gregg Moore when I heard Maurice Hamilton on BBC 5 Live describing the crash, it could have been a lot worse.
Indy next week clashes with Le Mans where a lot of potential spare drivers will be. Are Glock or Vittel actually available ????
Personally, I don't enjoy a spectacular crash, although crashes were one of the things which first attracted me to the sport as a small boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by dont_be_jack
The presence of danger in motorsport is undoubtably one of the elements which makes it so exciting, but I don't actually enjoy seeing accidents.
It was a very bad accident, one of the worst I've seen. So happy he got out of it with his life. A real testament to the safety of the cars. Hope he makes a quick and strong recovery.
I had no problems with them showing the crash. People have a right to see what happened - to explain how the crash occurred. If you don't want to watch, you can switch over or look away - like some of you said you did.
It was an horrific crash, and great to hear Kubica is relatively unharmed considering the size of the accident. A broken leg is bad, but it could've been a lot worse.
Just one of those things, weird place to crash - like Martin Brundle said in commentary, you can't legislate for EVERY possible eventuality and this was one of those freak ones.
I think they should avoid showing replays whilst it's unclear whether or not the driver has survived the accident. In fact, I thought such a rule was in place already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bezza
I still can't believe that he wasn't seriously injured. Those cars are unbelievably strong.
That crash really sent a shiver down my spine. Reminded me of the Marco Campos fatality at Magny Cours and Christian Fittipaldi's monster impact at Surfers Paradise in (I think) 1997. As has been said, you can't legislate for EVERY eventuality with regards safety, but I too am surprised that wall didn't have some form of protection, given the angle of any likely impact. Glad he is not seriously hurt.
Yes the strength of the cars is unbelievable, to hit a concrete wall head on like that an come away with just a broken leg is amazing. It did bring back memories of Ratzenbergers crash intially, especially when you could see his head bouncing around in the cockpit. The safety crews were superb as well, Kubica was attented to within seconds.
Just hope he makes a quick recovery and is back in F1 soon.
First of all, thank God he got out of that with a broken leg. Incredible.
The crash was bad enough in real time, but in viewing the replay it's even worse: the front end bounced in the air over the grass, and Lord only knows what was going through his mind with no way to control the car before the impact. Like I said, thank God he's still with us, and the marshals and medical crews did such a fantastic job.
No broken legs according to pitpass - he's to be released tomorrow:
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=31704
This was a nasty accident. Hopefully this won't affect his driving in the future negatively. It's still quite unclear, how severe the injury is and several sources say different things, but it seems quite likely that Vettel will replace Kubica at least at Indy.
I'll be raising a glass to Robert tonight :up:
He's a good character, and a fantastic talent, and I'm gutted that I probably won't get to see him in the flesh at Silverstone.
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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
At least. I broke a knee and that was 6 weeks in a splint and then getting muscle strength back with physio is a long and slow process, im sure he will have the best support helping him through the process though :)
If the stories of him not having a broken leg are true though that is great news :)
That's superb news. Autosport.com are now saying he has escaped injury, and will be released from hospital tomorrow. BMW say they will make a decision at Indy as to whether Kubica will race there, though I still would be amazed if does given the severity of the accident.
Horrendous crash... it was a real relief to hear that he only had a broken leg. If it's true that he hasn't even suffered that, that's amazing.
Get well soon Robert.
I was staggered that he'd only broken a leg, but now it seems he's broken nothing at all! A miracle. He'll probably be a bit sore for a while though. I remember Dan Wheldon saying that the morning after a huge shunt, you can feel your organs slowly shifting back to their original positions. Ouch!Quote:
Originally Posted by stevewf1
still i would make him rest until silverstone at least.
I don't know what to say. What it happened tears came to my eyes. But now when i'm reading he's ok, and will be released tommorow without any injury.... It's unbelievable.
That was most horrible crash i have ever seen in F1. I'm glad RK is ok!
Thanks to FIA and BMW Robert will be back soon!
My favorite article concerning RK's accident:
I know I know, I'm not suppose to copy the whole article :p :Quote:
JUNE 10, 2007
Kubica "OK"
A BMW spokesman says that Robert Kubica is "OK"
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19261.html
Seems that maybe no broken bones, but my gut tells me not to expect him to race next week...
Well if he's back racing by the British GP, then thats an amazing turn of events, these cars are really proving to be safe.Quote:
JUNE 10, 2007
Miraculous escape for Kubica
Initial reports from team members that Robert Kubica had suffered a broken leg as a result of his accident in Montreal have proved to be wide of the mark. The latest news from the hospital is that the Pole has no broken bones. He is staying in hospital under observation in case there are any questions with concussion but it seems that he is not seriously hurt.
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19263.html
if he has nothing broken and is back in Indy, then F1 can claim to be safest motorsport ever with a big margin!
even if actually broke his leg I'm amazed how safe are f1 cars now, I feared the worst when they first showed the replay.
a big THANK YOU to the guy who invented the Hans device! I still don't get why some WRC people don't like it!
Horrible accident.
Looks similar to Greg Moore's crash at California Speedway :(
Strangely due to Greg's crash its now why we have tarmac run-off. Wonder what would happen to that area of the track?
That was terrible to watch, just seen it now. Poor Kubi. I hate to see so much head movement, no doubt he'll be thoroughly checked over.
Yes Well said,Quote:
Originally Posted by ojciec dyrektor
It looked real bad at first. After witnessing Bergers crash, Senna's impact, and Ratzneberger, as well as a few others, I too got a bit emotional. But now that the news came out that he didn't suffer any physical injuries I too will toast to RK tonight
Good to hear no broken bones, and thank you to Mr. HANS inventor, but they shouldn't minimize his condition. He was clearly knocked out. Concussions are always serious. It can take weeks for dizziness or headaches to go away, and even if he feels "fine" next week I wonder if he shouldn't be allowed to drive. No place for only 99% focus in F1.
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Originally Posted by jso1985
My first guess would be because it restricts head movement which is needed more in WRC when the car gets sideways.
I'm glad Kubica is ok, it's a real testament to how safe the cars are. Although I hope that noone takes this as an excuse to insert a Mickey Mouse corner in any circuit to reduce the likelihood of an accident.
I've been a massive fan of robert for a while now. Huge talent, and despite some people's claims, has taken it right up to heidfeld who is an experienced and underrated driver.
Is quick, young, and has many years left in formula one so this is an unfortunate setback if it is true about the broken leg. So is it hundred percent true he has come out with no broken bones? If so, what a credit to f1. I did fear the worst though, and f1 hasn't had a crash for a while where you stop and just get that dreaded feeling that the worst could have happened. I feel for the guy, hasn't had the best luck so far but he will fight back and all the best to him whether he races in one week or not for a few more races.
All aside from racing, the most important thing here, is that robert kubica, the person, is ok. Good luck robert, i'll be cheering for you when you get back.
When I first saw the crash I thought he was dead. It's one thing to shatter the car, but when he changed directions after hitting the wall i just imagined brain into skull carnage.
I suppose a concussion and a sprained ankle is better than death.
What did exactly happen, I was going to bathroom when the accident happen.
Jarno Trulli had the worse accident than it on the Renault years ago, and he had only minor injury.
However get well soon Kubica
At silverstone? I disagree, the silverstone crash wasn't even as bad as that crash at interlagos with MW i think in, I know it was a Jaguar that crashed real heavy on the main, and even RS at Indy, that was the last F1 crash before this one that had me really concerned.
yeh trulli's crash at silverstone was nowhere near as bad as kubica's. I think this is the most dangerous/worst shunt we have seen in formula one since villeneuve and ralf at albert park in 2001, involving the death of a marshall.
This was an absolutely frightening crash at a point on the track approaching 300km/h and to hit that brick wall at the speed he did was just horrifying.
that was a harsh accident.. I'm very relived and happy that he is ok.. I have liked him since he kicked JV out of the spot.. very good driver, many people bash Max about how he sucks as head of the FIA bu I hate to break it to you but if he wasn't president of FIA Kubica would be a goner.. Very harsh words I know but that and other incidents would be a harsh reality... It's very good to see that those F1 cars are safe..
I think so, trulli's crash wasn't that bad although he was upside down more than kubica, but at the end Kubica's crash was worst.
Hope he will not miss any race after crashing.
The accident was very serious, indeed, but I am not surprised that he was so well protected. I did expect some sort of injury from the forces of impact, but things seem to be looking better than anyone could have imagined at the time.
I don't really think it helps if the network stops showing replays since that only makes people suspect that someone knows that something very serious is wrong. As I watched the replays, I was glad that his car was facing the way it was as it moved back across the track and hit the 2nd wall. I would have been more worried if he had impacted the wall head first!
I'm glad that he will probably be released tomorrow and hope that he recovers quickly from the bad shake-up that he had. Somebody was watching over him!
I hope Robert gest well and come back as soon as possible, F1 needs drivers like him :up:
Well, Jarno was involved in this too. Probably caused it by moving to the right and causing RK to hit his rear right. At those speeds there should be respect to your fellow racers.Quote:
Originally Posted by leopardsleeping
Burti had a two horrendous accidents. 1 at Spa where he was buried in the tyre barrier and one where he hit MS at the start.
Ralf had a bad one at Indy that knocked him out.
Webbers at Brazil was bad because Alonso also hit the debris having a huge crash. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf8-oQXO2B8
But Kubica's crash was the worst I've seen for a long while.
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Originally Posted by dont_be_jack
I think you will find your defnition of "most people" to be very incorrect :rolleyes:
Most people aren't motoracing fans and the only part of it that they find exciting is the crashes. A majority of the motoracing videos on youtube are crash compilations.Quote:
Originally Posted by aryan
Most people on this forum don't like seeing crashes. Thats because as true motorsport fans, we prefer watching cars race wheel to wheel with each other without crashing.