2 top drivers are more important, no matter what car they drive. Having another serderidis has no value.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
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2 top drivers are more important, no matter what car they drive. Having another serderidis has no value.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
I'd say having Serderidis opening the road and getting tons of time on allive actually has negative value. Doesn't look like much of a "top" sport.
What is going on with Evans? Crashed into first corner? (or the Maps failing to show up-to-date info). No split times as well.
edit: seems to be moving again...
edit 2: ok, going through in road-mode and it is the same for others. Stage cancelled.
That's a wrong thread. This rally hasn't started yet :)Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
Some of that negative value is due broadcast direction decisions than due to pay-driver, who also has some positive value, helping M-Sport be more safe financially. It's ok to show Serderidis a little but broadcast should give him less air-time, especially when more competitive drivers are already on stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Agree
That he is allowed to enter is perfectly fine.
That he runs before Rally2s and even more importantly as first car on Saturday/Sunday is questionable.
That he is shown on all live (onboard) for basically any amount of time is directly damaging the series.
The last point can be addressed directly ( not showing him) or indirectly by running him after WRC2.
Just as long as you're not in the "Rally2 with privateers as top class" camp.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
I am from Prague and this event brings the WRC to my home city but as others stated before I can see that this concept proved itself to be overambitious and far too expensive. The original meaning of the word rally is to gather the motorsport enthusiasts together to race against each other. In that sense Barum managed to rally them, CER clearly not. There are nearly 200 competitors in Barum every year with far majority being locals and then there is CER with 5 Czech crews. That comparison is absolutely brutal. While Barum managed to establish itself as a sort of festival where everyone tries to be every year the CER WRC event combines huge cost with no tradition and it doesn't work. You might say that these local competitors are not needed in a WRC event but I say they are because they are the reflection of the general popularity of the said event and of course they bring money to the organization.
While I get what you are saying and agree with parts I really doubt "WRC Barum" would get higher interest than CER if it was ran at end of October with similar starting fees.
Lots of crews "run out of money" by the end of the year and/or have nothing to compete for. The starting fees are probably for the most part necessary to handle large number of spectators and closed/damaged roads in populated areas. They could probably be lower if they dropped the whole "Prague" part.
The "tradition" part is off course true. But some CER Friday stages are the "traditional" ones from Sumava Rally. But Sumava doesn't really have any name outside of CZ and stages like the "circuit" are at best mediocre.
mate, just read above. i've already explained my point in the same post you quoted and another, and will be happy to argument it more, if there's interest and respect of other's opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
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Originally Posted by Duvel
According to the latest information, camping will not be possible on the Czech stages. 24 hours before all access roads will be closed.
https://www.pamk.cz/cer2024/
here is what you can expect on Strašín stage. Section from the start to Kváskovice by Václav Pech (time 2:38 until 8:33). Unfortunately, today's asphalt surface is much better.
https://youtu.be/Mhd0dzZqSyM?si=Ldvh4Fx-_uHC4gjq&t=158
Thierry Neuville is going to compete at Herbst Rallye in Austria next week with Rally1 in preparation for WRC CER 2024.
➡️ https://www.herbstrallye.at/2024/news_2024_02.html
Last year Tanak won the event in Puma Rally1.
Hi all!
Does anyone know if there'll be something to see in the Karpfham service park on Thursday? I guess it'll be pretty dead untill friday evening.
Is the main service park in Karpfham or in Klatovy?
Like he doesn't know how to drive the car on tarmac :DQuote:
Originally Posted by hari
Main service park is in Karpfham. Everybody will be there on Wednesday for scrutineering. Later that day (or next day very early in the morning) everybody will move to Prague to Velka Chuchle, where will be remote service during Thursday. On Thursday afternoon everybody will move to Janovice, where will be remote service during Friday. On Friday afternoon/evening everybody will move to Karpfham, where will be night service. And everybody will stay there until Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennM
Working on Google Maps stages. Will post link when finished.
Attachment 2565
Onboards from stages.
https://www.youtube.com/@GHrallyemotion/videos
Stages on Google Maps:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/vi...9673540985&z=9
Dont think this has been posted...
Why Rovanpera hasn't been asked to do CER:
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/why-r...ked-to-do-cer/
No matter how beautiful this rally is looked upon, I don´t like it.
High speed, tarmac, rain. bumpy stages... I enjoy watching it from home, but have a serious feeling safety margins is zero, whatever it means for drivers, spectators etz.
This rally is far less bumpy than Barum. In our standards it's not bumpy at all except several short sections on Friday and Thursday night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
The Friday stages are partially same with Historic rally Vltava which has been very popular among Swedish or Finnish crews. You might ask some of them why they like it. Some are even here on the forum with us.
I don´t have to ask other persons opinions, when formulating my own. Let´s erase the word bumpy then. Doesn´t make the rally so much safer in my eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Having said that I´m looking forward watching CER from home pc.
A PET just to get you in the mood... and this is the slowest Rally1 driver ! :disturb:
https://youtu.be/jQShTfVscwc?si=MVodYIF2tNwTUgSb
Pretty sure Serderidis will be slowest Rally1.
Apart from him I think it is quite possible that Munster will be faster than Pajari.
When they met head to head on tarmac last year in Croatia, Pajari was significantly faster than Munster in RC2. Think it will be interesting comparison between two of them at CER.
Is there someone visiting CER this weekend? Are u planning to visit Shakedown? It seems really different from the proper stages and also quite boring.
There are now recce videos of the stages on Rally-maps for anyone thats going.
https://x.com/RallyMaps/status/1846248270168773035
https://www.rally-maps.com/Central-European-Rally-2024
Any news about wheather there?
Forecast says sunny and warm, but there has been some rain in Southern Germany and Czech Republic over the weekend, so it might stay muddy next to the road in the forest areas.
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Stages (and weather forecast) are looking amazing !
Less than 22 hrs left for doing the Pickems for CER...
Closing time is 1455 hrs CEST Thursday. That´s tomorrow...
Some pictures from Servicepark in Karpfham: https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bes...llye_2024.html
https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2024/central/1.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2024/central/2.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2024/central/3.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2024/central/4.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2024/central/5.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2024/central/10.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2024/central/23.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2024/central/37.jpg
Recce interviews by dirtfish
https://youtu.be/U6y5203--ws?si=aC0VTB45CwAGnXtW
What a time by Pajari? Almost 4sec faster on 2kms than Munster.. haha..
Yes, quite some surprise. Looked so much smoother and planted than a lot of others who had oversteer both under braking and out of corners.
Makes you wonder how good the Yaris really is vs others on tarmac.
Yeah... Ogier slower in the same car as a guy who is driving it for the first time. But yeah just a single minute run, nothing to judge from.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Maybe its bit more important as its a remote shakedown with no chance to visit the service park before the start of the first stage.
As I said, Munster the slowest of the (factory) drivers. Slower than some Rally2's on SD !Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC