[ERC] JDS Machinery Rali Ceredigion 30.8-1.9.2024

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Originally Posted by Sal yet again

Did every Manx from 82 thru to 89 as a marshal/spectator Steve

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If I add spectating, servicing & timekeeping I've been involved with 33 of them since 1977 and 24 Nationals. I reckon I've spent around six months over there on rallies all told!

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Originally Posted by Sal yet again

The point I was trying to make though is that even in the days of the co-efficient system holding a rally towards the end of the season when the title race was down to a handful of drivers with strong local competition on an event that not many of the ERC had previously done was not the strongest draw. Ceredigion being held only a couple of weeks after the biggest rally of the championship year probably hasnt helped either.

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I think you're right, and I very much doubt that Ceredigion can offer the kind of financial incentives that the Manx could in its glory days when they struggled to attract top level Eurpoeans. The Manx did get some Europeans over, lower down the entry list. Most of them came from Holland and Germany (competitors & marshals), usually people involved with the West Euro Cup. They also managed to get the French Citröen AX Cup competitors over in 1992 as their "foreign" event, so again not premier league.

RedGrey entering the cars of Creighton and Pearson would make no sense. In the BRC Teams Championship it's going to go down to the wire.Here's how it stands after the Grampian Forest Rally...

1- M-Sport Ford Rally Team - 107
2 - Castrol Melvyn Evans Motorsport Rally Team - 104

I guess they are just paying for the ERC entry of these drivers. Do Teams get prize money if their cars finish high up in the results ?

Not so strong entry list has various reasons. It is close to the season end, so lot of drivers has stopped their participation in championship when they have no chance for good result. Most of the drivers has limited budget, there is only few who has budget for all races. Lot of them is going event by event and one crash can mean additional costs and reasons to miss the event. And gravel specialists like Heikkila or Sesks decided not to continue in tarmac part of season. Also calendar schedule is crazy for privateers, in fact in almost two months there were in a row Scandinavia-Estonia-Rome-Barum-Ceredigion. For lot of teams almost impossible to attend all of them. Also Ceredigion to be only two weeks after Barum doesnt help (deadline for entry including payment of entry fee was week before Barum). And another problem is brexit, so additional customs and lot of paperwork needs...

Regarding strange competitors at some drivers - dont find anything special like teams championship or non-existing prize money behind it. It is very simple - to have ERC1 priority, you need to pay registration (3555 euro). If you are registered to the championship as a team, you can nominate different drivers to the events. So for competitors doing only one rally it is easier to make agreement with some registered team which is not attending for some symbolical fee than pay 3555 euro for own registration. RedGrey is registered since Estonia, so they only used their previous registrations...

Thanks PLuto.

Amaury Molle unfortunately withdrawn from Rali Ceredigion due to cracked ribs after the crash at Barum.

https://www.facebook.com/amaurymolle...15137010604620

Hayden Paddon

It’s rally week again and always love returning to the UK to compete. We have some good memories of Wales & Rally Ceredigion having won here two years ago. However with all but one of the stages being new this year, it means it is an even footing for everyone.

Wales is always special to us as this is also where we competed in our first Rally in Europe - Wales Rally GB in 2008 - 16 years ago ! We miss the gravel forest stages, however the unique narrow tarmac lane stages of Ceredigion provide equally the challenge.

Simone Tempestini will replace Amaury Molle by invitation of MRF.

#18 Volkswagen Polo GTI R5

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Originally Posted by archie106

Amaury Molle unfortunately withdrawn from Rali Ceredigion due to cracked ribs after the crash at Barum.

https://www.facebook.com/amaurymolle...15137010604620

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Every cloud has a silver lining - Simone Tempestini to replace Amaury Molle in Wales:
https://www.fiaerc.com/a/news/w28508...from-MRF-Tyres

Ingram is IN so im 100% happy. 19 entries is good enough for a rally up in the UK. not sure why theres no tons of local teams but its fine. go Ingram!

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Originally Posted by saco0o

Ingram is IN so im 100% happy. 19 entries is good enough for a rally up in the UK. not sure why theres no tons of local teams but its fine. go Ingram!

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At least in the top class (Ral2) it's the lowest entry for any British round this year (been a relatively good year for BRC), so I'm guessing the entry costs must be a lot higher for this one? Not terrible numbers, but was hoping for a little more originally.

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Originally Posted by dodge33cymru

At least in the top class (Ral2) it's the lowest entry for any British round this year (been a relatively good year for BRC), so I'm guessing the entry costs must be a lot higher for this one? Not terrible numbers, but was hoping for a little more originally.

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Several hundred pounds extra, plus much longer distance will add much more costs in terms of tyres, fuel, car mileage, extra accommodation etc.

Plus we are nearing the end of the year when budgets are running low.

Kyle Whites car is currently being repaired I believe, so he isn't entered.

In Matt Edwards latest vlog, apparently Tom Cave was very close to putting a deal together which would have been great to see.

Ingram says his priority this year is the British title:
https://www.fiaerc.com/a/news/w28516...ccess-can-wait

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Originally Posted by archie106

In Matt Edwards latest vlog, apparently Tom Cave was very close to putting a deal together which would have been great to see.

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Yes I watched that. But as Cave said, starting a rally after years away is very tough and I dont see how he could've been competitive here.

For followers of the ERC you should be aware that Rali Ceredigion counts as two rounds of the BRC - the Fri/Sat stages for Rd5 and the Sunday stages for Rd6.

This may explain the approach the BRC drivers take to the event to stay in contention for scoring points on both days. Also some drivers are playing their 'Joker' for one of the Rounds, which can score up to 5 extra points.

interesting. does all erc rounds are on the national championship's calendar? i always thought they were, "in a way".

This could be Hayden Paddon's last rally (in Europe) !

https://dirtfish.com/rally/erc/rali-...lly-in-europe/

I couldn't put it any better than @lukebarry97 :

Rali Ceredigion this year - a huge event for the entire UK rallying community.

Brilliant to see international rallying return to these shores... and about 10 drivers could realistically win !

New livery and new car for Simone Tempestini:
https://www.facebook.com/rallymax/po...c7tAsjgWeqDAKl

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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

This could be Hayden Paddon's last rally (in Europe) !

https://dirtfish.com/rally/erc/rali-...lly-in-europe/

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ahhh thats sad. tho new zealand championship has a pretty good decent highlight coverage on YouTube. i have been following him over that series too so everything is going to be fine. it would be even better if he were to try the aussie championship. If they could get bates, paddon and vangisbergen to do the full season, thaaat would be a year to follow (also on yt!). put molly taylor on a Ap4 top and i'd honestly shift 100% from wrc to that

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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

For followers of the ERC you should be aware that Rali Ceredigion counts as two rounds of the BRC - the Fri/Sat stages for Rd5 and the Sunday stages for Rd6.

This may explain the approach the BRC drivers take to the event to stay in contention for scoring points on both days. Also some drivers are playing their 'Joker' for one of the Rounds, which can score up to 5 extra points.

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It only counts as a single round of the British National Asphalt Championship though - despite the National Rally following the same itinerary as the International event.

Have a great time out on the stages those who are venturing out this weekend. Thanks to those who sent me information however due to a number of reasons what was always going to be a late in the day decision to go or not was made for me by other parties!

Shame not to be able to see Paddon one last time if his plans are to not come back to Europe however hope there is a big battle and that the event can build on this year which will result in more ERC crews in future.

Jason Pritchard & Elliot Payne have withdrawn.
Pritchard i think is having issues registering his new Yaris.

The ERC regulars show their speed on the Qualifying stage...

https://m.rally-base.com/2024/jds-ma...redigion-2024/

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Originally Posted by J4MIE

Jason Pritchard & Elliot Payne have withdrawn.
Pritchard i think is having issues registering his new Yaris.

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Pryce's car new livery was designed by a 12-year-old boy. He will also focus on the British championship points:
https://www.fiaerc.com/a/news/w28522...be-right-again

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz6xelvve97o

Coverage so far on the BBC has been positive! Guessing the local news service may have a camera or to out over the weekend.

creighton and cronin are the guys fighting with ingram for the british title, right? pryce not so much, if i remember correctly. thats going to be a cool 'second' fight to watch - after paddon / franceschi (not sure marczyk can do anything right now. he would have to win these 2 rounds with paddon and franceschi basically not scoring points)
interesting rally ahead! nice

btw (random thoughts) these roads are so beautiful. do you fellas follow those "king of the roads" races? (ullster, cookstown, 'north west' 200), its like superbikes racing on that type of road. its sooo much more intense than motogp, for example.
incredible stuff. i should follow it more closely

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Originally Posted by Sal yet again

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz6xelvve97o

Coverage so far on the BBC has been positive! Guessing the local news service may have a camera or to out over the weekend.

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Some BBC coverage is always good. But what does the 30 years part mean... since a Welsh rally was in the ERC ?

The Rally of Wales was on the 1994 ERC calendar Was on the same weekend as Gran Canaria and 3 or 4 other rounds so guess that slipped us all by!

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Originally Posted by saco0o

creighton and cronin are the guys fighting with ingram for the british title, right? pryce not so much, if i remember correctly. thats going to be a cool 'second' fight to watch - after paddon / franceschi (not sure marczyk can do anything right now. he would have to win these 2 rounds with paddon and franceschi basically not scoring points)
interesting rally ahead! nice

btw (random thoughts) these roads are so beautiful. do you fellas follow those "king of the roads" races? (ullster, cookstown, 'north west' 200), its like superbikes racing on that type of road. its sooo much more intense than motogp, for example.
incredible stuff. i should follow it more closely

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Irish road racing and the TT/Manx GP are a league apart from circuit motorcycle racing but we only have Olivers Mount in Nth Yorkshire and a park in Wales at the moment that are similar on the UK mainland. I follow as my dad was a biker so its in the blood sort of but just watching the races scares me senseless!

the event's facebook page was live doing those driver/cars intro and quick interviews. maybe theres some content coming from them during the week? https://www.facebook.com/RaliCeredigion

British Championship's facebook page also doing some livestreams
https://www.facebook.com/BRCrally

BRC seems to do a lot of livestreams during the championship rounds on facebook, but NOT on youtube.
i always thought facebook was a dead place, but these last two years i've been finding more and more decent stuff over there, especially related to motorsport broadcast and livestreams. youtube weirdly losing this battle (at least for stuff im interested. even some premier league and nba games were broadcasted there last year on some 'russian pages' hehe).

tho the BRC fellas cannot show what RallyTV is showing right now. they cannot interview ERC drivers only BRC guys.

Well, it's strange watching the SSS. I was in Aberystwyth a couple of years ago and I stayed just up the road from the finish line. I've walked at least half the stage. I had no idea it was a rally stage I was walking on...

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Originally Posted by saco0o

BRC seems to do a lot of livestreams during the championship rounds on facebook, but NOT on youtube.
i always thought facebook was a dead place, but these last two years i've been finding more and more decent stuff over there, especially related to motorsport broadcast and livestreams. youtube weirdly losing this battle

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A lot of older people still regularly use Facebook, rallying in the UK is predominantly followed by older people... I have a small UK rallying YouTube channel, the analytics show the audience has been 85% age 45+ over the last year year. 35% was 55 to 64, 40% was 65+. You do see plenty of younger people out spectating on the stages still though.

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Originally Posted by Sal yet again

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz6xelvve97o

Coverage so far on the BBC has been positive! Guessing the local news service may have a camera or to out over the weekend.

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The ERC gets to choose what they film and where from. Nobody else is allowed around these areas, and definitely not to broadcast anything. Some of the protyre championship crews who have chosen to do the international event aren’t getting any coverage at all

If you want anything of the ERC, you have to pay the promotors for their footage. And it’s not cheap.

Special Stage are giving the Asphalt Championship guys the coverage...

https://www.youtube.com/live/PfjhdFe...5iC1yjJ-pfBT0f

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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

Special Stage are giving the Asphalt Championship guys the coverage...

https://www.youtube.com/live/PfjhdFe...5iC1yjJ-pfBT0f

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Only if they’re not doing the international event.
I have filmed for Special Stage in the past so know a lot more than I’m allowed to let on ;)

So can anybody tell me: who is James Williams, and where can I buy her records?

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Originally Posted by Morte66

So can anybody tell me: who is James Williams, and where can I buy her records?

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And he's rolled. Me and my big mouth.

Hero to zero... what a shame for the local guy. :(